inexpensive rifle's..

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i dont like cheap glass, cheap booze, cheap women or cheap plastic stocks. But that just me.

"yup" rusty i have to agree with ya /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
i have two savage tupperware's and one completely restored/sporterized drop dead gorgeous 03-a3 30-06. i love takin the savages to the woods. i love lookin at the o6' on the shootin bench sayin i might just take it to the deer woods if its not rainin or snowin and there is a clear path to my deer stand.
 
i'm just simply not "buyin" into the reasoning..that one can't take a good looking rifle hunting..period..that's what ya buy "em" for..saying anything else is simply a reason to justify a cheap rifle..to each his own that's cool,i have no problem with a quality fiberglass stock like a h-s or whatever..i admit i've never owned one just handled a few..the intent of my thread that started month's ago is to simply say..it's getting hard to find quality in a off the shelf rifle..
 
I have never purchased a new rifle or shotgun...Hand guns are a different animal so I have purchased new Glocks, Berettas and Sig. Revolvers have all been used...no one makes a Smith like the old Model 28 Highway Patrol... my .22s are old Winchesters and Marlins, the centerfires range from Marlin, Ruger, Savage, and Winchester...the shotguns are all Winchesters.

I can get the 40s and 50s craftsmanship in a firearm that costs less than new, even the cheap new, and most are on par with the higher grade rifles available today...

You do not have to sacrafice quality for price, and you get a gun with some history.

As far as taking a classic old gun to the woods...I took my buck 2 years ago with a Winchester 88 in .308 and the last coyote I killed was with a Winchester 88 in 243...for you uninitiated, thats a special gun...I shoot em and hunt em.
 
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Hey Dave /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. I have a stainless/synthetic bolt gun with a tupperware stock (hint), that I can hunt with in the rain, snow, brutal cold, or nice weather. When trigger pullin' time comes I know its gonna put the bullet in the right spot. Always does.

They may not look or feel great to some folks, but the new crop of synthetic/stainless/pillar bedded factory out of the box guns shoot as well as anything I've owned. And I've been shooting awhile!!!

Its beautiful to me to beat the snot out of my hunting gun for a whole season, and have that last shot in March hit exactly where it did as the first one in September did. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif With zero attention......pretty amazing.

Old world craftmanship is great, but as usual we probably remember it better than it was. Some new guns by select manufacturers plain rock /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
I have a mix of both bags and like above I have a Winchester Model 88, that I use/shoot every year. Shoots just as good as when my father bought it.

I also have a Steven's "ugly" stock thing that shoots awesome...but like many I buy what I can afford...I have also bought used wood stock guns..so it's a two way street...
 
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Hey Dave /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Some new guns by select manufacturers plain rock /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Oh yeah, which ones are those????? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Just kidding don't want to open a can of worms that would get out of control.

For Dave's sake I will just state they might start with a STE... or a SAV..... all kidding aside though Dave you are right in that, a beautiful gun is something to behold. It is something that those who don't hunt or shoot will never understand. And as far as the feel of it in your hand I understand that also. When I bought my Dtech I had a nice Hogue grip put on it because the feel of plastic in my hand was not going to fly with the most expensive gun I will most likely ever purchase, so feel is a little bit of it for me as well. You do not want to feel like you have a cheep piece of crap in your hands.
 
i have purchased 2 very quality guns in the last 3 yrs off the shelf. One savage 16 in 243. and a stevens in 25-06. both with a great price and lots of metal other than the stocks. both shoot better than me and can be modded as much as any hunter would want.
 
I don't own anything that does not go to the bottoms with me. My Caesar Guerini's go dove and quail hunting. The Citori 3" Mag. that I bought 30 years ago is scratched and dented, the bluing worn in places. My .243 Bar does not have abit of the original finish left, gave it to my father when he had heart surgery, and he needed something lighter kicking to hunt with. Will they take a duck or deer or dove today the same as they did the first day out of the box, you bet! Some of my fondest memories are of being the kid cleaning the guns for everyone at the end of a hunt, while the men were smoking their cigars and shaking their glasses for another shot of Grandma's cold remedy, telling tales and recounting the day. Wiped the brier scratches off and put it down to age, just like the men who used them. I have an old single shot Iver Johnson that has been backed over by a truck, stock broken and pegged and glued back together, and it makes a couple of squirrel hunts a year, over 75 years old, and it still touches my heart to shoulder my Grandfather's old gun.

My son has places in his gun cabinet for all these, knows the history, and when I pass this vale of tears, he will have them to pass on to his sons and grandsons.
 
If you look at a gun like a tool, do you need to buy SnapOn, or another prominate Brand? First I'd have to consider the use of the tool. Do I want to display them proudly in my shop for all of my friends to see? Or did I just buy them to get a job done? Will the extra 3 layers of chrome make the tool remove the same bolt or nut that a set from Ace Hardware will do any Better ? I dont know about all that, I think that we all have likes and dislikes, what fits one guy wont fit another. If I made my "Living" with a certain tool, I would no doubt try to buy the best. But it depends upon personal taste. My taste is to get an accurate tool that does the job, because I know that "that is all I need". But thats just my thoughts..
 
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TN chimin' in. My Savage 14 is a beauty of a rifle to look at. It shoots MOA or better with three different loads I have worked up, but it sits in the safe ALL hunting season. It's just too pretty to put through the "dangers" of walking through the briers, pulling it up a haul line, crossing creeks, and stomping through thickets. It handles like a thing of beauty, shoulders exceptionally well, but all it has ever shot at is paper - and for at least a while, that's all it will shoot at. Almost all of my hunting rifles are tupperwared in some shape, form or fashion.

RB


I've shot the Savage 111 in .270win for several years and really enjoyed the accuracy. It's never failed to shoot sub-moa with my handloads and has shot some amazing groups.

There are a mix of rifles in my cabinet some have wood and some have plastic....ooops, I mean "composite" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That savage was dirt cheap to me. Kills alot of deer. Not as nice as my weatherby .257wby mag, though. I wonder if the deer mind? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
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