Iranian Uprising

Widow maker 223 said:
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You know how this goes—we can’t just pull back after something like this. People start saying it has to be answered or it was all for nothing. Just another level of mission creep.

It never hits all at once like a tidal wave. It creeps in like a rising tide—fuel surcharges, baggage fees, mortgage rates ticking up, farmers paying more for fertilizer. We saw it after 2020… once prices go up, they don’t really come back down.

War follows the same pattern. It starts as “military targets,” then shifts to anything that supports the fight. Bridges yesterday, infrastructure next—eventually everything becomes fair game. We’ve seen that playbook before. It has been over 80 years since we have fought a total war.

This isn’t winding down—it’s building. And my gut says something bigger hits after the markets close going into the weekend.
 
Infidel 762 said:
You know how this goes—we can’t just pull back after something like this. People start saying it has to be answered or it was all for nothing. Just another level of mission creep.

It never hits all at once like a tidal wave. It creeps in like a rising tide—fuel surcharges, baggage fees, mortgage rates ticking up, farmers paying more for fertilizer. We saw it after 2020… once prices go up, they don’t really come back down.

War follows the same pattern. It starts as “military targets,” then shifts to anything that supports the fight. Bridges yesterday, infrastructure next—eventually everything becomes fair game. We’ve seen that playbook before. It has been over 80 years since we have fought a total war.

This isn’t winding down—it’s building. And my gut says something bigger hits after the markets close going into the weekend.
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Agreed, I think the gov and our favorite ally have been wanting to do this for some time, another part of me thinks there is more to it. Like total collapse, CBDC, agenda 2030 etc. I can see a world wide economic recession coming that had been looming for the past few years. The commercial mortgage real estate market here is big money and its not in good shape, no one talks about it.
 
Widow maker 223 said:
Agreed, I think the gov and our favorite ally have been wanting to do this for some time, another part of me thinks there is more to it. Like total collapse, CBDC, agenda 2030 etc. I can see a world wide economic recession coming that had been looming for the past few years. The commercial mortgage real estate market here is big money and its not in good shape, no one talks about it.
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Agreed. And thinking about it like this: Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Obama gave Iran the fish—pallet of cash, a deal, set back, and watched.

Trump bombs the shit out of them, then wants to pull out without securing the Strait? That’s letting them keep the fishing rod and the pond while we step back. We traded oversight for temporary destruction, and now the tide—and a cash cow—is theirs to rebuild a “peaceful nation that wants to live in harmony, lol.” Call it a “win” if you want—I know Iran will.

Meanwhile, we’re standing in the rain, getting pissed on, screaming, “oh shit… it’s raining.” Total collapse, CBDC, Agenda 2030, worldwide recession—they’re all lining up while we pretend we’ve got control.
 
Infidel 762 said:
Agreed. And thinking about it like this: Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Obama gave Iran the fish—pallet of cash, a deal, set back, and watched.

Trump bombs the shit out of them, then wants to pull out without securing the Strait? That’s letting them keep the fishing rod and the pond while we step back. We traded oversight for temporary destruction, and now the tide—and a cash cow—is theirs to rebuild a “peaceful nation that wants to live in harmony, lol.” Call it a “win” if you want—I know Iran will.

Meanwhile, we’re standing in the rain, getting pissed on, screaming, “oh shit… it’s raining.” Total collapse, CBDC, Agenda 2030, worldwide recession—they’re all lining up while we pretend we’ve got control.
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I think Trump was betting on Nato or the EU stepping in to help before all this happened. Now he plans to throw it in their lap since they dont do shit and never put skin in the game.
 
Widow maker 223 said:
I think Trump was betting on Nato or the EU stepping in to help before all this happened. Now he plans to throw it in their lap since they dont do shit and never put skin in the game.
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Unless we’re ready to ethically cleanse the entire population, we lose the principles we pretend to fight for—oceans of blood spilled for oil. Afterwards, hoping the uninhabitable stretch north of the Persian Gulf somehow counts as “zero threat” to shipping, that a stray drone or missile won’t hit a tanker. I mean, hell… we nuked Japan once and somehow called ourselves the greatest generation of boomers. I guess I would call that a win.

Trump underestimated Iran—within the first few days he was keeping track of the percentages of missiles they had left. You no longer hear those numbers. He’s just tossing it into NATO and the EU’s lap now, because they never really put skin in the game. But I also don’t think Trump saw the true magnitude of this coming; he thought it would be quick, and the population would rise up.
 
Infidel 762 said:
Unless we’re ready to ethically cleanse the entire population, we lose the principles we pretend to fight for—oceans of blood spilled for oil. Afterwards, hoping the uninhabitable stretch north of the Persian Gulf somehow counts as “zero threat” to shipping, that a stray drone or missile won’t hit a tanker. I mean, hell… we nuked Japan once and somehow called ourselves the greatest generation of boomers. I guess I would call that a win.

Trump underestimated Iran—within the first few days he was keeping track of the percentages of missiles they had left. You no longer hear those numbers. He’s just tossing it into NATO and the EU’s lap now, because they never really put skin in the game. But I also don’t think Trump saw the true magnitude of this coming; he thought it would be quick, and the population would rise up.
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He underestimated them big time!! Same as last summers strike. The regime has a big hold on its society mentally, I'm amazed they have not rose up with all the heads that have rolled.
 
The 60s didn’t just give us new music—they cracked something open. One moment it was tidy lawns and white picket fences, the next it was a generation questioning everything they were told to accept. Call it rebellion, awakening, or unraveling—it marked a turning point in what America believed itself to be. Out of it came the Summer of Love, protest songs, and a culture that refused to stay quiet. Whether that era was a peak, a fall, or something more calculated… it changed the trajectory.

Now zoom out and look at us—post-9/11, post-2020, living in an age of algorithms and constant division. Different battlefield, same tension: authority vs. truth, unity vs. fracture, reality vs. what we’re told it is.

Don’t get stuck in the noise—but do ask yourself: how long can we keep this balance before something gives? Before the world we hand down is shaped more by conflict than possibility?

Because the next generation isn’t waiting. They’re already speaking—louder, faster, and without asking permission. The question is whether we’re listening… or just repeating the cycle with a different soundtrack.



 
It's entertaining (if nothing else) reading the armchair qb's. I often wonder it's due to the lack of public education since 2008 or the indoctrination of those same students. Critical thinking seems, gone.
 
spotstalkshoot said:
It's entertaining (if nothing else) reading the armchair qb's. I often wonder it's due to the lack of public education since 2008 or the indoctrination of those same students. Critical thinking seems, gone.
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I get what you’re saying—but I don’t think it’s just ‘armchair QBs’ or education falling apart.

I saw some of it firsthand during COVID with my kids’ college classes—professors drifting off topic into their own opinions. Pissed me off, especially paying for it.

But it’s not just one side. There are people on the far left and far right who will believe anything their side says. I voted for Trump every time and don’t regret it—but I’m not blindly agreeing with everything either. Life teaches you that. I’ve dealt with addiction up close—lost my kids’ mother to it. When someone lies to you over and over, you stop trusting words and start watching actions.

That’s really the point—this isn’t a lack of critical thinking. It’s people trying to actually use it instead of just repeating what they’re told.
 
Germans won't fight to defend themselves any more. Friend of mine recently lived there for about 5 years, hubby is a (now retired) Maine Corps officer. SShe talks to everyone, finds out all sorts of stuff.

People there expect us to defend them. If they get invaded, they have zero willingness to fight for their country & are terrified at the notion that we might pull our military out of the country.

This truly pisses me off. I'm all about helping someone who does everything they can to help themselves but we've created an insane dependency. If you won't do anything for yourself you're going to find me ponderously un-helpful
 
Fins are a different story. They maintain a military, hate russia & russians & if putin invades them they'll unleash all the living hell they possibly can & won't be waiting for someone else to show up to help out. If we or anyone did they'd be glad to have it but aren't sitting around waiting for it
 
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