Iranian Uprising
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Foxpro.223
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We’re watching agriculture “consolidate”—nice, tidy word for fewer, bigger operations holding more land while everyone else gets priced out of the pasture. And that’s not just a trend—it hits independence, food security, and who actually controls production… with government having more control over production along the way.
A hundred years ago, 160 acres could feed a family. Why? Because the game was local, practical, and built for people—not a stack of forms taller than a grain silo.
Now it’s not just farming—it’s compliance, insurance, audits, permits, global markets, and policies that quietly say, “go big or go broke.” Big operations spread the pain. Small farmers swallow it whole. Farmers didn’t forget how to live off the land—the system just made it damn near impossible to survive doing it.
And we’ve seen this movie before. Back in the ’80s, Farm Aid—with guys like Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp—was sounding the alarm while family farms were getting wiped out. That wasn’t some distant history lesson… it was the warning shot. "Aint that America"
And yeah—if we expect kids to navigate a world like that, schools need to do better on real-life skills. Teach kids how to run a budget, read a contract, understand debt, and file their taxes. That kind of competence matters just as much as knowing how to plant a field if the goal is real independence. Because apparently we can teach kids the quadratic formula, but not how to keep the IRS off their back.
Teach kids how to stand on their own feet—because independence isn’t dying in the field… it’s getting buried in paperwork.
Unconfirmed but was reported in the UK that the IRGC was attempting a coup
Widow maker 223
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Mind blowing people still believe in this crap. Since recorded history the world has never had a stable temp or zero carbon emissions, this is the same as believing oil came from dinosaurs.
Foxpro.223
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Right. Communists like to cause disruptions in food production usually to control others with food. Kerry's always been a communist sympathizer.
There’s a difference between protecting land and pricing people off it. The danger isn’t “degrowth”—it’s building a system where only the biggest can afford to feed you. You don’t kill independence outright—you price it out.
When rules get so complex and expensive that only the biggest operations can comply, that’s not sustainability—that’s consolidation with a green label.
Family farms don’t disappear overnight—they get buried under costs they didn’t create and can’t absorb. If your policy only works for the biggest players, it’s not saving agriculture—it’s rewriting who gets to own it. Government overreach comes to mind—but the “American Dream” feels more like a daydream these days.
Like Bob Dylan said back in the ’60s, “The times they are a-changin’”… and not always for the people who built this thing from the ground up.
When rules get so complex and expensive that only the biggest operations can comply, that’s not sustainability—that’s consolidation with a green label.
Family farms don’t disappear overnight—they get buried under costs they didn’t create and can’t absorb. If your policy only works for the biggest players, it’s not saving agriculture—it’s rewriting who gets to own it. Government overreach comes to mind—but the “American Dream” feels more like a daydream these days.
Like Bob Dylan said back in the ’60s, “The times they are a-changin’”… and not always for the people who built this thing from the ground up.
Widow maker 223
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Exactly what is happening in real time. Over the last 35yrs I have seen a crazy number of family farms vanish. Take milk for example, milk price for a farmer hasnt gone up hardly at all in decades, yet inflation keeps going up.
9/11 felt like a reset. 2020 got branded the “great reset.”
Now we’re watching another one build—but this one isn’t some slogan, it’s the tide that has yet to come in.
They said strength, leverage, and control with Iran. Instead, we’ve got stalled talks, rising tension, and a global ripple that’s already hitting the wallet. Oil spikes → fertilizer spikes → food prices follow. That’s not theory—that’s already happening.
And guess who feels that first? Not the people calling the shots. It’s the farmer paying double for inputs, the family at the grocery store, the guy already stretched thin. Farmers are already getting squeezed to the point that many have and are walking away entirely.
Meanwhile, the bigger the system gets, the more insulated the top becomes—and the more everyone else eats the cost.
This isn’t about left or right—it’s the compounding effect. Energy up, inputs up, food up, inflation up… and that gap between who can absorb it and who can’t just keeps widening.
But yeah—keep watching Fox News and posting memes, stay distracted while the real game of insider trading, market moves, and quiet financial advantage plays out above your head. That’s exactly how you stay the good tools they have groomed you into being.
They sold you “America First” & "Make America Great Again"—but when it cashes out, it’s Main Street footing the bill while the people calling the shots don’t even feel the storm.
Now we’re watching another one build—but this one isn’t some slogan, it’s the tide that has yet to come in.
They said strength, leverage, and control with Iran. Instead, we’ve got stalled talks, rising tension, and a global ripple that’s already hitting the wallet. Oil spikes → fertilizer spikes → food prices follow. That’s not theory—that’s already happening.
And guess who feels that first? Not the people calling the shots. It’s the farmer paying double for inputs, the family at the grocery store, the guy already stretched thin. Farmers are already getting squeezed to the point that many have and are walking away entirely.
Meanwhile, the bigger the system gets, the more insulated the top becomes—and the more everyone else eats the cost.
This isn’t about left or right—it’s the compounding effect. Energy up, inputs up, food up, inflation up… and that gap between who can absorb it and who can’t just keeps widening.
But yeah—keep watching Fox News and posting memes, stay distracted while the real game of insider trading, market moves, and quiet financial advantage plays out above your head. That’s exactly how you stay the good tools they have groomed you into being.
They sold you “America First” & "Make America Great Again"—but when it cashes out, it’s Main Street footing the bill while the people calling the shots don’t even feel the storm.
Family farms disappear due to size and the kids. Takes a lot of land to be profitable (and big/expensive tractors). Kids don't want to ride the tractor all day. Big companies can afford the equipment and labor. Same reason kids don't mow yards on the weekend to get some $.
Yeah, a lot of farm-raised kids see the grind up close and decide to chart a different course—especially when the world outside the fence line now has a thousand more doors than it did 40 years ago. Computers, tech, knowledge work… whole careers that didn’t even exist in their parents’ vocabulary.
And that “same reason kids don’t mow yards on the weekend for some cash” comparison—doesn’t really land the same. Mowing lawns was pocket money, optional hustle. Farming is a different animal entirely. That’s land, debt, weather, markets, and margins so thin you can see through them. When it stops penciling out, it’s not about effort—it’s about math.
So yeah, some of it is cultural shift. Kids see the struggle and choose a different lane. Not because they don’t respect it—but because the world now hands them other options with less volatility and more predictability.
And underneath all of it, the bigger thing is this: the definition of “making it” has changed, and not every path survived the update.
As Bob Dylan said, “the times they are a-changin’”… and they don’t exactly ask permission. It’s not that kids stopped working hard—it’s that the world opened more doors, and farming didn’t get easier while everything else got wider.
This effin guy breaks it down in layman’s terms, lol
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speaking of farms, i know a guy that was a dairy farmer for over 50 years. the DFA, dairy farmers of America tried to tell him if he wanted to continue selling his milk to them he had to take classes to be certified to milk cows and clean box stalls
he refused, they kept buying his milk. he just recently retired from dairy farming, he had enough of the DFA crap.
he refused, they kept buying his milk. he just recently retired from dairy farming, he had enough of the DFA crap.
Widow maker 223
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Sounds like some over watch BS. I know a few small time milkers still going, they dont do any of that. One even sells to a big time cheese maker.
According to the American Farm Bureau Federation, “around 70% of U.S. farmers report being unable to afford all the fertilizer needed for the 2026 season. Skyrocketing costs driven by supply chain disruptions, such as the conflict in the Middle East, have caused nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium prices to surge.”
Now stack that against this: Donald Trump said the ballroom at the White House would be donor-funded. Not on the taxpayer.
Fast forward—and suddenly it’s “national security,” and guess who’s picking up the tab. Then look at the donors lobbying his ballroom—companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Meta Platforms. People forget how they tried to silence Trump. Not exactly longtime allies, but that’s the point.
Meanwhile, farmers? Nowhere on that ballroom donor-lobbyist list. No black-tie galas for nitrogen bills.
Because people at that level don’t operate like voters picking a side—they maintain lines of communication with whoever holds power. That can look like “alignment” from the outside, but it’s just strategic access.
A ballroom makes headlines in a week. Fixing fertilizer prices takes years. Guess which one the media is selling you as a matter of national security.
They said they’d cut waste—still waiting on the receipts.
Said tariffs would replace income tax—math’s still not mathing.
Said 5K DOGE checks were coming—must’ve gotten lost in the same mail as accountability.
Said a lot of s#1t
So who do politicians stay loyal to? It is sad its not America first, they just talk to fire up their base, while they make moves for the ones paying them, their lobbyists. Two wings on the same bird
The ones funding the room—not the ones feeding the country.
You can’t eat a ballroom. When farmers can’t afford fertilizer, that’s not politics—that’s just Washington. But it’s not just the ballroom, it’s the pattern. They hold faith that their base has the memory of a fish.
It is beyond comical the BS he sells his base. Here is what he just posted at 4AM this morning;
Now stack that against this: Donald Trump said the ballroom at the White House would be donor-funded. Not on the taxpayer.
Fast forward—and suddenly it’s “national security,” and guess who’s picking up the tab. Then look at the donors lobbying his ballroom—companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Meta Platforms. People forget how they tried to silence Trump. Not exactly longtime allies, but that’s the point.
Meanwhile, farmers? Nowhere on that ballroom donor-lobbyist list. No black-tie galas for nitrogen bills.
Because people at that level don’t operate like voters picking a side—they maintain lines of communication with whoever holds power. That can look like “alignment” from the outside, but it’s just strategic access.
A ballroom makes headlines in a week. Fixing fertilizer prices takes years. Guess which one the media is selling you as a matter of national security.
They said they’d cut waste—still waiting on the receipts.
Said tariffs would replace income tax—math’s still not mathing.
Said 5K DOGE checks were coming—must’ve gotten lost in the same mail as accountability.
Said a lot of s#1t
So who do politicians stay loyal to? It is sad its not America first, they just talk to fire up their base, while they make moves for the ones paying them, their lobbyists. Two wings on the same bird
The ones funding the room—not the ones feeding the country.
You can’t eat a ballroom. When farmers can’t afford fertilizer, that’s not politics—that’s just Washington. But it’s not just the ballroom, it’s the pattern. They hold faith that their base has the memory of a fish.
It is beyond comical the BS he sells his base. Here is what he just posted at 4AM this morning;
Widow maker 223
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They want the people distracted. Once the normies finally see what is coming here in a few weeks to months. It will be just like the great TP famine of the dark Rona times.
Also everyone forget that the FDIC is insolvent, they are a joke anyhow. They have 99yrs to pay you back LOL. Most banks in the country are insolvent too. Let that sink in. If a bank run starts happening the big cities will be lit.
“Bunker is tax-funded, ballroom is donations—who cares?” was my point. Separating funding streams doesn’t remove the optics or influence concerns—large donations tied to access or visibility can still raise legitimate questions about conflict of interest and proximity to decision-making.
And just to be clear—I’m not zeroing in on the ballroom or treating it as the core issue. I’m pointing to it as one example in a broader pattern. My point is how media narratives tend to spotlight whatever is most visible in the moment and frame it as the main story, while more complex or higher-impact issues get less attention.
As for fertilizer, you don’t control the world—but you do control how hard it hits you when it shakes.