Originally Posted By: Jabey9210I don't think the government realizes that the constitution was created to restrict the government itself from becoming a tyranny. Like they say the difference between democracy and a dictatorship is with a dictatorship you have no rights and over time you slowly earn rights. With a Democracy you start out with rights but slowly over time lose them!!!
You guys need to read history - WE ARE NOT, NOR EVER HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRACY! We are a Constitutional Republic. There is a difference - example & great series of history vid's - - if you're gonna argue, learn the proper terminology for your argument first. Liberals love to use the word Democracy (which is now so commonly used that most people think we ARE a Democracy), which is where the majority rules, and there is no Constitution that overrides the current desires of the majority, period. This starts us down the path of "Power to the People" regardless of the rules, ie, Constitution. With a democracy, you DON'T necessarily start out with rights.
With no order, ie, gov't of some sort, you have chaos, and no rules. The fight against "too much" gov't, or none, is eternal. The major problem is that the People refuse to participate fully, then B!+(H about the lack of results following their wishes. Again, an eternal human condition if you read history. The ancient Greeks and Romans complained of political problems and dishonesty by those who filled political positions, and we still do. Why? We fill those positions with humans, who have emotions and feelings, and desires - some viewed as good, some as bad, and some both by different people doing the viewing.
Point - to have order, you need some version of organization - we call that Gov't. With no order, chaos. With chaos, no progress, advancements, or freedoms. Murder, rape, theft is all "not" illegal. With no enforcement of rules, no order either. Freedoms can go too far also - am I allowed to freely cheat the tax system becuz I think I should be able to keep it all, while benefiting from our order, our laws, our financial system, our military protections, our highway systems, etc., just becuz I wish to?? I know a bunch of Amish that think that way. That said, we all cheat the system some. We all speed on the road beyond posted limits, sell things privately and pocket the $$ and not report it, put a wounded animal out of it's misery without a tag or out of season, etc. The control of those infractions, and at what point they are controlled, is the difference between us and Third World countries.
To pay for this organization, we tax ourselves on value. Less value = less tax. Do I agree that our gov't is IMMENSELY wasteful? H&ll yes! But it is OUR job to cut it back down, while fully realizing the results of our own actions - ie the more we "want" from gov't, the more tax it takes to get it, and the more gov't control there is. And once these controls are in place, we are ALL beholden to them, with appropriate investigation and prosecution, within the bounds of the "rules", applicable to all.
To Catshooters comment above, the reason we'll never see a flat tax, (I wholeheartedly support a flat tax, by the way - absolutely makes the most sense), is the same reason we'll never see the legalization of drugs - too much profit now being made off of the way that it is done now. The IRS, tax attorneys, accountants, etc. would all throw up such a well-financed lobby against it, complete with scare tactics to the "little" blue-collar guy, that everyone will be afraid to vote for it. Drug cartels would do the same on the legalization of drugs - their profit would be sucked away in a flash, and the Prohibition-style killing and controls would be over. I can just see the cartels pairing up with the religious organizations to lobby against drug legalization! LOL!!
