Is one custom rifle worth several factory rifles?

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Originally Posted By: liliysdadOriginally Posted By: pyscodogThere was a day when one would say the K98 Mauser was the best to build off of.

Sure there was....but that day has has come and is long gone..

I would not hesitate for a moment to build a custom off of a GOOD M98.
 
Originally Posted By: RustydustOriginally Posted By: ackleymanI like just about any rifle that is super accurate, the bling is not all that important anymore to me.

Boy howdy but you're right about that one. A nice looking gun is nice but a great shooting gun is nicer. And I just cannot even imagine having any sort of firearm that that is a beauty but is lacking in the accuracy department.

You will never hear me say "Yeah, I missed all those prairie dogs all right. But didn't my gun look good while I was doing it?"

Hey that's not true rusty! Looking good is half the battle! HAHA if I cant shoot with a darn, I better be looking good doing it! HA
 
Originally Posted By: Smokin250
Hey that's not true rusty! Looking good is half the battle! HAHA if I cant shoot with a darn, I better be looking good doing it! HA

Oh, none of my guns are ugly- certainly not to me anyway. But if I had me a fine looking gun that did not shoot as good as it looked it would soon be someone else's fine looking gun.
 
Who decided that a full custom rifle won't shoot as well or better than a RAR or even a custom built from a "modern" action?

If I could afford one, I'd have one in a minute. They are indeed built by artisans, but the artisans also know what they are doing, just like the dude at Joe's Gun Shop does when it comes to accuracy. Custom smiths might only build a few rifles a year, but they sell for their beauty and for their functionality at a price most of us can't rationalize or understand. And in spite of what you might want to believe, these types of rifles do get practical use by their owners.

Lots of misinformation floating around here maybe to make some people feel better about themselves as they gaze into their gun closet. But I guess whatever it takes to be a rock star in your own world helps.

Carry on with the poor boy propaganda. It's truly comical in its lack of real understanding.

 
I'm in the process of figuring out my first custom rifle build right now. I have a few factory rifles in a variety of calibers that suit my current needs but I want something that really isn't offered from factory from any manufacturer.

So to me the reasons for building a custom rifle would be
- Getting something you just can't get from factory, and will be exactly what you want (stock, twist rate, overall length, etc.) There's pretty much unlimited options when building a custom.
- Pride of Ownership
- Extreme accuracy (I know there are some factory rifles out there capable of good accuracy, and I own a couple, but sometimes they can be hard to come by.)

So to the OP, if you feel that a custom is what you want and you can't find exactly what you want from a factory rifle, go ahead and start the design process of one if you've got the funds to do it. I've been at this for a year and still haven't decided on all the pieces I want to build with.
 
Hey Winny

Just wondering- have you ever wondered what it would be like NOT to be a jerk? Ever thought about trying it just to see what it is like? I'm sure that there are an awful lot of people out there that would like to know the answer to that question.

There certainly IS something comical here on PM. Comical and sad at the same time.

It sucks that some people have to be the way they are. Thank goodness they are few in numbers.
 
Originally Posted By: RustydustHey Winny

Just wondering- have you ever wondered what it would be like NOT to be a jerk? Ever thought about trying it just to see what it is like? I'm sure that there are an awful lot of people out there that would like to know the answer to that question.

There certainly IS something comical here on PM. Comical and sad at the same time.

It sucks that some people have to be the way they are. Thank goodness they are few in numbers.

It's been a two way street here since the day I first posted, Rusty. Some people just have trouble dealing with reality, whether its their own or someone else's. Good job on the name calling. It says volumes about depth.

I'm not knocking anything you might have. All I said was don't knock something you have no idea about. That is what you were doing on your side of the road.
 
A guy at the club sold several rifles to buy a full custom rifle in 7 mag. Fantastic wood, blueing on the metal was fantastic, just a very high end custom rifle. Accuracy sucked and its now in the shop getting re-barreled. Another member built a semi custom off a Ruger action.Hart barrel, McMillian stock, jewel trigger. Accuracy was terrible. Sent it to Hart, they re-barreled it, still sucks. I think there are times that no matter how good the parts are or how much you spend, you still get a lemon. Then there is the flip side, maybe he can't shoot worth a flip either so spending a ton of money don't make you a good shot. (But, you look good doing it.) Then, there's the $400 rifle that is just an absolute tack driving hammer of Thor. I guess this is another one of my pointless posts.
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Originally Posted By: RustydustHey Winny

Just wondering- have you ever wondered what it would be like NOT to be a jerk? Ever thought about trying it just to see what it is like? I'm sure that there are an awful lot of people out there that would like to know the answer to that question.

There certainly IS something comical here on PM. Comical and sad at the same time.

It sucks that some people have to be the way they are. Thank goodness they are few in numbers.

I don't know.....I kinda appreciate Winny's straight forward talk...
Sure....he pokes fun and/or looses patience with folks once in a while but most of us are guilty of the same....

He's kinda like 2muchgun....sarcastically knowledgeable....
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As far as the artsy fartsy rifles go.....I'd buy one if I hit the lottery but in the mean time I enjoy looking a pix of em while living on SS and a coffee can full of pocket change I have stashed under the bed.....
 
To me... the common denominator between a cheap weapon or a custom weapon is one thing.... the correct load.

How many times does the barrel or other equipment get blamed... when the shooter cannot do the proper load procedure...?

Your load workup will prove the quality of each weapon... cheap or custom.
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogA guy at the club sold several rifles to buy a full custom rifle in 7 mag. Fantastic wood, blueing on the metal was fantastic, just a very high end custom rifle. Accuracy sucked and its now in the shop getting re-barreled. Another member built a semi custom off a Ruger action.Hart barrel, McMillian stock, jewel trigger. Accuracy was terrible. Sent it to Hart, they re-barreled it, still sucks. I think there are times that no matter how good the parts are or how much you spend, you still get a lemon. Then there is the flip side, maybe he can't shoot worth a flip either so spending a ton of money don't make you a good shot. (But, you look good doing it.) Then, there's the $400 rifle that is just an absolute tack driving hammer of Thor. I guess this is another one of my pointless posts.
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I'm sure there are some rifles that get custom work done and still suck. At that point though I would tend to say the quality of the smith's work is bad if all the parts and pieces are top quality. Regarding that Ruger you mention, I have to think that the action wasn't trued up properly if it still shot crappy with two match grade barrels. Personally, if I had a custom rifle built for precision shooting, there's no way I would even take it home if it shot groups larger than 0.75 MOA. My expectations of a custom rifle are to be 0.5 MOA or better.
 
I'm in the same boat as you RePete. I was forced into retirement when my company was relocated, then lost my home through divorce. Living on SSA and a little draw on a 401K doesn't leave a lot of extra money. I look alot but usually settle on something cheap and just make it work for me.
 
Originally Posted By: Winny Fan

Good job on the name calling. It says volumes about depth.

I'm not knocking anything you might have. All I said was don't knock something you have no idea about.

Huh? What name calling? Is calling something what it exactly is name calling to you? I see. Wow.

And how in the world do you think that you know what I know or dont know about? That's right you do not. Sure sad you have to be the way you are.

Oh, and for clarity reasons: Is it pronounced "Win-y" or is it "Whiny"? Am am pretty sure that it is the latter. Sure be my guess.
 
I'm sure there are custom rifles, both highly decorated and expensive and others not so blingy and expensive that don't shoot well. The fact of the matter is that a big majority of them left the gunsmith exhibiting pristine accuracy and had it until it got cleaned in the wrong manner or not cleaned at all until accuracy was gone.

There are no guarantees in life, but there are a lot of people willing to play the accuracy roulette game, whether its for a $500 rifle or for a $20K+ rifle. A good custom smith capable of building and asking a huge sum of money for a custom rifle won't let it leave his shop without knowing that it is highly accurate. However like other professions, there are probably some custom smiths who can't create the complete package, and they may make good money for awhile, but the word gets out quickly.

As an aside, if being into group speak is how you get loved here, I'm probably not going to get a box of candy on Valentines Day from anyone here, but I can live with that. In the world I live in calling someone a jerk isn't a normal thing. I guess for others it is. Se la vie.
 
Originally Posted By: Winny Fan In the world I live in calling someone a jerk isn't a normal thing. I guess for others it is. Se la vie.


I suspect that most people that get referred to as jerks deserve it. Obviously, some richly deserve it. Ipso facto.
 
Originally Posted By: RePeteOriginally Posted By: RustydustHey Winny

Just wondering- have you ever wondered what it would be like NOT to be a jerk? Ever thought about trying it just to see what it is like? I'm sure that there are an awful lot of people out there that would like to know the answer to that question.

There certainly IS something comical here on PM. Comical and sad at the same time.

It sucks that some people have to be the way they are. Thank goodness they are few in numbers.

I don't know.....I kinda appreciate Winny's straight forward talk...
Sure....he pokes fun and/or looses patience with folks once in a while but most of us are guilty of the same +1. Why is it so bad in today's society to be brutally honest? People are so afraid of hurting others feelings and I'm glad to see someone who isn't. Winny is right, at the end of the day you may have 1/10 factory rifles that will shoot as good as a custom, but a good gunsmith will build every single rifle to shoot better then most factory rifles would ever dream of and honestly you can't argue but I'm sure someone will.
 
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Originally Posted By: JJTAlwaysWishing
Why is it so bad in today's society to be brutally honest? People are so afraid of hurting others feelings and I'm glad to see someone who isn't.

Being honest doesn't mean that someone has to be an AH whenever they make a post. There is a huge difference in disagreeing with someone and flat out being a disagreeable jerk.

There are differentiating opinions galore here. How they are presented is what makes all the difference. I think most folks would agree with that.
 
OK, not every single post no.

But by far more than others do. And others have commented about that many times in the past.

It just gets old is all.
 
I guess I can't agree cause he is on my side of the arguement but I can understand what your getting at, forums are just breeding grounds for Internet dipshits it seems like haha.
 
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