Tim Neitzke
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So what does the bolt handle remodel entail ? It it just a bit of thinning ?
James Calhoon bolt mod for CZ527 ?
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Yes sir, just "east" of the lug that slides in the bolt, while looking breech to muzzle, a fair amount of material is shaved off beginning there and moving down the handle in sort of a crescent shape. To me, it looks dinky and screams I can't wait to break the first time it gets cold out. If you google calhoon modified handle it will pop up first on the images page. I just checked that out for ya.
I have no dog in the fight but I do know what my younger brother ran into with his 527 and Leupold scope . He wanted the scope as low as possible for his desired cheek weld and used medium rings , not sure of the brand . Had contact with the bolt handle and on another gun forum found out about the Calhoon modification . He had it done and the bolt clears and looks nice . The gun has been shot a lot and seen plenty of cold weather usage the last couple years . No signs of breakage .
Originally Posted By: roky0702Originally Posted By: CZ527So not all WARNE medium rings are made equal? Calling bull crap on that one!
He said "not all medium rings are equal" as in equal in height, which is precisely what this post is about. Reading comprehension is key...
I think you're the one who can't comprehend what you're reading. He had warne medium rings and said that they interfered. They don't on mine. None of them.
There was another poster that came along that brought up the FACT that not all manufacturers mediums are equal. Of course not.
But when some says the same scope with the same rings doesn't work... Yea.
He said "not all medium rings are equal" as in equal in height, which is precisely what this post is about. Reading comprehension is key...
I think you're the one who can't comprehend what you're reading. He had warne medium rings and said that they interfered. They don't on mine. None of them.
There was another poster that came along that brought up the FACT that not all manufacturers mediums are equal. Of course not.
But when some says the same scope with the same rings doesn't work... Yea.
So just call a spade a spade there mr 527.... I'm tired of hearing your useless babble about your rings working. Good I'm glad they did but dam nations do you honestly think we're making this chit up? I want you to tell everyone in here that has had this problem that they are a no good, lying POS. Tell James Calhoon, that he should be ashamed of himself. Offering a fix for a problem that does not exist, and taking people's hard earned money for his his own personal gain.
My god you're annoying
Edit to add....I'm sorry to come off as a butthole but I don't know what else to say at this point. You're forcing the issue that were idiots soooo
To everyone who chimed in...I appreciate it the response....my bolt is in transit to Montana now.....
My god you're annoying
Edit to add....I'm sorry to come off as a butthole but I don't know what else to say at this point. You're forcing the issue that were idiots soooo
To everyone who chimed in...I appreciate it the response....my bolt is in transit to Montana now.....
Originally Posted By: CZ527Originally Posted By: roky0702Originally Posted By: CZ527So not all WARNE medium rings are made equal? Calling bull crap on that one!
He said "not all medium rings are equal" as in equal in height, which is precisely what this post is about. Reading comprehension is key...
I think you're the one who can't comprehend what you're reading. He had warne medium rings and said that they interfered. They don't on mine. None of them.
There was another poster that came along that brought up the FACT that not all manufacturers mediums are equal. Of course not.
But when some says the same scope with the same rings doesn't work... Yea.
Actually, Greg (GLShooter) never once claimed he was using Warne. That was Charlie (RePete). So your comprehension is still in question, at least contextually.
The fact of the matter is, some Ring/Scope configurations will cause fitting issues. I mount scopes on nearly s daily basis. I have mounted scopes on many CZ 527s. Sometimes there is an issue, other times there isn't.
Heck, even CZ themselves admit to there being, at times, clearance issues.
scope clearance handle
He said "not all medium rings are equal" as in equal in height, which is precisely what this post is about. Reading comprehension is key...
I think you're the one who can't comprehend what you're reading. He had warne medium rings and said that they interfered. They don't on mine. None of them.
There was another poster that came along that brought up the FACT that not all manufacturers mediums are equal. Of course not.
But when some says the same scope with the same rings doesn't work... Yea.
Actually, Greg (GLShooter) never once claimed he was using Warne. That was Charlie (RePete). So your comprehension is still in question, at least contextually.
The fact of the matter is, some Ring/Scope configurations will cause fitting issues. I mount scopes on nearly s daily basis. I have mounted scopes on many CZ 527s. Sometimes there is an issue, other times there isn't.
Heck, even CZ themselves admit to there being, at times, clearance issues.
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skinnyminny
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So is this an issue with the bolt handles not all having the same angle during the forging process then
Originally Posted By: DoogerI thought CZ took are of this issue on the newer 527's??????
They have reworked the current bolt handles to accommodate, more easily, scopes and lower mounts. But this has not always been the case. I the link I posted above, they refer to them as their "new design", the 527 American is cataloged as "scope ready" due to the new handle.
They have reworked the current bolt handles to accommodate, more easily, scopes and lower mounts. But this has not always been the case. I the link I posted above, they refer to them as their "new design", the 527 American is cataloged as "scope ready" due to the new handle.
Winny Fan
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Originally Posted By: CZ527I'd lean toward an agreement. 19 caliber, anyone?
Good riddance.
I've noticed. Seen more ignorant [beeep] on here in the last year than I've seen in the real world my entire life.
I bet if you look around in Abilene or Lubbock you'll find some good hemorrhoids doctors who can ease the pain that seems to be making you hyper-grouchy and clouding your judgement.
Good riddance.
I've noticed. Seen more ignorant [beeep] on here in the last year than I've seen in the real world my entire life.
I bet if you look around in Abilene or Lubbock you'll find some good hemorrhoids doctors who can ease the pain that seems to be making you hyper-grouchy and clouding your judgement.
SlickerThanSnot
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6mm06
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Originally Posted By: CZ527 Why the [beeep] people still believe in this is beyond me. All that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics.
CZ527, I think your approach to responding to GetFoxy's question is what got feathers ruffled, not your experience with rings and the 527. The way a guy SAYS things and conducts himself matters, or should anyway. I believe if you would have stated your experience a little bit nicer things would have gone differently.
As to "all that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics," well, once again you are inviting your own problems. That's a subjective statement, meaning YOU may think it's ugly as sin, but someone else may not. You are setting yourself up for criticism and acting as if you know it all. Maybe this kind of attitude is what is causing some of your problems on the forums, but I will add that I have seen a few others in other forums exhibit the same behavior too.
I think we all can agree to disagree on most any topic, but we need to remember that everyone should be treated with respect and not talked down to. That's one of the biggest problems I have seen on these forums, that some guys don't seem to know how to talk to others, to disagree with a guy while maintaining proper perspective and still showing the other guy proper respect.
Now my cents worth pertaining to rings for the CZ 527. I use a Burris medium quick detach (I think it's Burris, rounded top ring), but I also have a picatinny rail that raises the scope a little bit higher. That combination allows me to use medium rings and have the bolt barely clear the eyepiece. The scope still sits lower than if I used high rings.
deathwind II
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Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Originally Posted By: CZ527 Why the [beeep] people still believe in this is beyond me. All that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics.
CZ527, I think your approach to responding to GetFoxy's question is what got feathers ruffled, not your experience with rings and the 527. The way a guy SAYS things and conducts himself matters, or should anyway. I believe if you would have stated your experience a little bit nicer things would have gone differently.
As to "all that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics," well, once again you are inviting your own problems. That's a subjective statement, meaning YOU may think it's ugly as sin, but someone else may not. You are setting yourself up for criticism and acting as if you know it all. Maybe this kind of attitude is what is causing some of your problems on the forums, but I will add that I have seen a few others in other forums exhibit the same behavior too.
I think we all can agree to disagree on most any topic, but we need to remember that everyone should be treated with respect and not talked down to. That's one of the biggest problems I have seen on these forums, that some guys don't seem to know how to talk to others, to disagree with a guy while maintaining proper perspective and still showing the other guy proper respect.
Now my cents worth pertaining to rings for the CZ 527. I use a Burris medium quick detach (I think it's Burris, rounded top ring), but I also have a picatinny rail that raises the scope a little bit higher. That combination allows me to use medium rings and have the bolt barely clear the eyepiece. The scope still sits lower than if I used high rings.
Ahhh.....finally, the voice of reason. Good post.
Congratulations on settling on the medium Warnes, Foxy. I've done the same combination on my 527 American and it works perfectly - looks good with just enough front scope bell gap to allow for possible similar-size scope changes.
Whether or not a handle change was even necessary if you have one of the newer 527s with the re-radiused bend is moot now. (You can also buy them directly from C-Z USA for a little less $ than the Calhoon, fwiw.) That might explain, too, how a guy can claim his stock bolt handles clear scope ocular bells on 527s with Warne medium rings; no way that would work on mine.
To those 527 Varmint owners (as I am, also): remember that you can't go quite as low with ringmounts as the Americans because the larger-dia. barrel eats up more space between it and the scope objective bell. I want to mount a 50mm obj. scope on mine, so I'm also looking at the DIP rail and Weaver-type rings like 6mm06 has, to fine-tune the barrel/scope bell gap without having to go to ugly-a-- high rings.
Originally Posted By: CZ527 Why the [beeep] people still believe in this is beyond me. All that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics.
CZ527, I think your approach to responding to GetFoxy's question is what got feathers ruffled, not your experience with rings and the 527. The way a guy SAYS things and conducts himself matters, or should anyway. I believe if you would have stated your experience a little bit nicer things would have gone differently.
As to "all that Calhoon handle accomplishes is a loss in aesthetics," well, once again you are inviting your own problems. That's a subjective statement, meaning YOU may think it's ugly as sin, but someone else may not. You are setting yourself up for criticism and acting as if you know it all. Maybe this kind of attitude is what is causing some of your problems on the forums, but I will add that I have seen a few others in other forums exhibit the same behavior too.
I think we all can agree to disagree on most any topic, but we need to remember that everyone should be treated with respect and not talked down to. That's one of the biggest problems I have seen on these forums, that some guys don't seem to know how to talk to others, to disagree with a guy while maintaining proper perspective and still showing the other guy proper respect.
Now my cents worth pertaining to rings for the CZ 527. I use a Burris medium quick detach (I think it's Burris, rounded top ring), but I also have a picatinny rail that raises the scope a little bit higher. That combination allows me to use medium rings and have the bolt barely clear the eyepiece. The scope still sits lower than if I used high rings.
Ahhh.....finally, the voice of reason. Good post.
Congratulations on settling on the medium Warnes, Foxy. I've done the same combination on my 527 American and it works perfectly - looks good with just enough front scope bell gap to allow for possible similar-size scope changes.
Whether or not a handle change was even necessary if you have one of the newer 527s with the re-radiused bend is moot now. (You can also buy them directly from C-Z USA for a little less $ than the Calhoon, fwiw.) That might explain, too, how a guy can claim his stock bolt handles clear scope ocular bells on 527s with Warne medium rings; no way that would work on mine.
To those 527 Varmint owners (as I am, also): remember that you can't go quite as low with ringmounts as the Americans because the larger-dia. barrel eats up more space between it and the scope objective bell. I want to mount a 50mm obj. scope on mine, so I'm also looking at the DIP rail and Weaver-type rings like 6mm06 has, to fine-tune the barrel/scope bell gap without having to go to ugly-a-- high rings.
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Death wind- my cz is older. Have had it awhile.... I did see that buying direct from cz was a bit cheaper than Calhoon....but everyone who has done the Calhoon mod seemed pretty happy with it. That and he was a pleasure to chat with on the phone. So I didn't mind paying the extra.
deathwind II
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Yep, they don't make many like Calhoon anymore. Just wish I could figure a way scrape up the $ for one of his .19 Hornets before I croak.
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