No that all the feathers seem to be laid flat, we can get back to what this spot is for, "talking about dogs". It really makes no matter what your dog does, so long as you like it, Not right for me or anyone else to cuss your dog, on the flip side not right for you to cuss mine, or anyone elses. Facts are at certain times, dogs cost ya yotes, at other times they can help ya ring the bell. I wish I had this many guys that knew something, that I could argue with, or follow, when I started. Best of luck with your dog/dogs, you may think I'm a jerk, (I'll admit I dam sure can be at times) lots of guys smacked me in the side of the head when I was learning. As a kid, if I talked to the older guys, like some do on the puter, I would get a back hand. It taught me to shut up, even when I didn't want to.My point is there are no hard feelings, some of us are here to help, and we will. No other reason to spend so much time on the board. When a guy gets his "balls busted", it may be cause he deserves it???? There is a bunch of good info to be had if a guy wants sort thru the bs.