Just how good is a coyotes nose?

Originally Posted By: gmz71Hey guys i've only got a few ounces left of the best "scent spray" money can buy!!! Price reduced to $50 an ounce.
Tim bought some for reloading and doggin bought some for a salad shooter or something???

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Originally Posted By: BorderdogOriginally Posted By: wildarcherAter watching those Beef Jerky...( hope thats better ) commercials ya better leave sasquatch alone !!!

What was wrong with the original post? Was it the brand name reference?

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Originally Posted By: kyuteI tend to agree with venatic. So much scent u cannot cover/absorb. Your eye boogers, nose boogers, ear hair, coffee breath, gun oil, truck odors, you get my point. You fellas that are sold on the scent free products,, are you switching clothes between sets? (Due to truck odors) If you are, I am impressed. I tend to make more than one set during the day and it would take some serious discipline to do that.Props if u do. I guess for the OP, this post gives the utmost respect to a Yotes nose. One other thing, just because you feel the wind on the back of your neck doesn't necessarily mean the critter was"down wind" of you. Thermals, terrain all play a roll. If your odor gets to them, they got ya,,in my area anyway. I write this only because of personal experience. I have tried everything in the book as far as scent control products go, going to every extent to prove them "worthy". When I can figure out how to not breath, and keep scent from leaving my eyeballs, I may try them again. Hmmm,,,1 particle in a million...
I use scent loc gloves before I touch my scent loc ,IT only goes on outside ,straight out of the scent loc bag ... yes it comes off in reverse order of going on before getting into a vehicle ... IF YOU DON'T your wasting your time and money...before I go out again it is thrown into the dryer for atleast 45 minutes to remove any absorbed odor ... it does no good to wear scent loc without rubber boots and face mask along with a head net ...you should still hunt the wind the scent loc is for the yotes that circle past you that you cant see until he is going for the caller / decoy ...We also use the little wind direction bottles before we set up ... yeah its a pain but when you need that extra coyote and get him it pays off !!! Dead down wind has you covered as far as your breath goes to !!! along with your head net as long as it is scent loc !!!
 
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Originally Posted By: Whitetail Hunterhow good can a coyote smell. I know they make scent covers and such butdo you really need it with coyotes? How far away can they smell you? are theirs better then deer? go to charles shawley.com and read his e book , he studied this issue for a year you will be shocked at the facts on coyotes eye sight and smell
 
Originally Posted By: wildarcherOriginally Posted By: kyuteI tend to agree with venatic. So much scent u cannot cover/absorb. Your eye boogers, nose boogers, ear hair, coffee breath, gun oil, truck odors, you get my point. You fellas that are sold on the scent free products,, are you switching clothes between sets? (Due to truck odors) If you are, I am impressed. I tend to make more than one set during the day and it would take some serious discipline to do that.Props if u do. I guess for the OP, this post gives the utmost respect to a Yotes nose. One other thing, just because you feel the wind on the back of your neck doesn't necessarily mean the critter was"down wind" of you. Thermals, terrain all play a roll. If your odor gets to them, they got ya,,in my area anyway. I write this only because of personal experience. I have tried everything in the book as far as scent control products go, going to every extent to prove them "worthy". When I can figure out how to not breath, and keep scent from leaving my eyeballs, I may try them again. Hmmm,,,1 particle in a million...
I use scent loc gloves before I touch my scent loc ,IT only goes on outside ,straight out of the scent loc bag ... yes it comes off in reverse order of going on before getting into a vehicle ... IF YOU DON'T your wasting your time and money...before I go out again it is thrown into the dryer for atleast 45 minutes to remove any absorbed odor ... it does no good to wear scent loc without rubber boots and face mask along with a head net ...you should still hunt the wind the scent loc is for the yotes that circle past you that you cant see until he is going for the caller / decoy ...We also use the little wind direction bottles before we set up ... yeah its a pain but when you need that extra coyote and get him it pays off !!! Dead down wind has you covered as far as your breath goes to !!! along with your head net as long as it is scent loc !!!

Glad its working for you. I would think reminant odors in the dryer from normal washings (clothes dried that were washed with regular detergents) would get in your "scent-loc" regardless of scent free dryer sheets. And isn't it true that a household dryer does not reach temps to reactivate the suit? I gotta tell ya, I went through every step you have mentioned,,shy of the gum and when they hit my scent,,busted... the gum must be the solution!
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ARE ANY OF YOU GUYS WATCHING ...FOXPRO'S FUR TAKER'S ? they werent wearing gloves...a coyote came in put his nose on the FOXPRO ...seriously ... so if that didnt spook that coyote... scent loc sure wont !!! Tonights episode couldnt of came at a better time....LOL....this show is ten times better than last weeks !!!
 
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Originally Posted By: kyuteOriginally Posted By: wildarcherOriginally Posted By: kyuteI tend to agree with venatic. So much scent u cannot cover/absorb. Your eye boogers, nose boogers, ear hair, coffee breath, gun oil, truck odors, you get my point. You fellas that are sold on the scent free products,, are you switching clothes between sets? (Due to truck odors) If you are, I am impressed. I tend to make more than one set during the day and it would take some serious discipline to do that.Props if u do. I guess for the OP, this post gives the utmost respect to a Yotes nose. One other thing, just because you feel the wind on the back of your neck doesn't necessarily mean the critter was"down wind" of you. Thermals, terrain all play a roll. If your odor gets to them, they got ya,,in my area anyway. I write this only because of personal experience. I have tried everything in the book as far as scent control products go, going to every extent to prove them "worthy". When I can figure out how to not breath, and keep scent from leaving my eyeballs, I may try them again. Hmmm,,,1 particle in a million...
I use scent loc gloves before I touch my scent loc ,IT only goes on outside ,straight out of the scent loc bag ... yes it comes off in reverse order of going on before getting into a vehicle ... IF YOU DON'T your wasting your time and money...before I go out again it is thrown into the dryer for atleast 45 minutes to remove any absorbed odor ... it does no good to wear scent loc without rubber boots and face mask along with a head net ...you should still hunt the wind the scent loc is for the yotes that circle past you that you cant see until he is going for the caller / decoy ...We also use the little wind direction bottles before we set up ... yeah its a pain but when you need that extra coyote and get him it pays off !!! Dead down wind has you covered as far as your breath goes to !!! along with your head net as long as it is scent loc !!!

Glad its working for you. I would think reminant odors in the dryer from normal washings (clothes dried that were washed with regular detergents) would get in your "scent-loc" regardless of scent free dryer sheets. And isn't it true that a household dryer does not reach temps to reactivate the suit? I gotta tell ya, I went through every step you have mentioned,,shy of the gum and when they hit my scent,,busted... the gum must be the solution!
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MY GAS DRYER GETS PLENTY HOT .
 
That one must of been a dumb one!!!! Do you spray down your caller and decoy, gun lube?? I need some charcoal lined underwear cuz man it rough out there sometimes.
 
I really have a hard time with all the "scent free" clothes, sprays, etc. what I can't understand is how some folks are so convinced it "only works if done properly or its a waist of money", when its not possible to be 100% scent free? It just goes against what you are saying. Smell what I'm stepping in??
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Originally Posted By: kyuteSmell what I'm stepping in??
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Smell??? I thought we had that "covered"...
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If it works for you, great. Use it. Im just not wasting my money on it. My opinion.
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Originally Posted By: kyuteI really have a hard time with all the "scent free" clothes, sprays, etc. what I can't understand is how some folks are so convinced it "only works if done properly or its a waist of money", when its not possible to be 100% scent free? It just goes against what you are saying. Smell what I'm stepping in??
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Let's look at it like this ...If the snow was melting in the spring in Alaska and you were tie to a tree in your hunting clothes and I was tied to a tree with mine I wonder who would get ate first by a hungry Grizzly Bear...who would you put your money on... scent free clothes or your scented ones ?
 
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I gotta be honest with ya wild archer, the grizz would go for the first one who moved!
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look, we aren't seeing eye to eye but that's ok! This will be my last post on this subject so this thread can end!
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I think being scent free is a great idea.....BUT. After this past weekend I really got to thinking about this. I just got a new pair of hiking boots. I always spray treat them with that Camp Dry stuff or whatever it is in a can, got silicone and all that. I sprayed them real good one night and went hunting the next morning. The smell was so strong in the cab of the truck you could almost get high! I walked right up on two coyotes feeding on a baby calf that morning. With an AR, good chance they would have both been dead, but I was carrying my big boltgun. Later, I called in two coyotes and scored on one about 225 yards out. The other ran towards me but got in some cedars about 150 yards out before I could get a shot at it. I could smell the boots as I was sitting there calling, thats bad. Wind was light but there was a breeze blowing a little and in differant directions. Were these just dumb coyotes, did they not smell that stuff? Or was any scent of a person masked by a chemical smell that they didn't care about. Wish I could have posted the pic of the coyote because he was fat, but wife was out of town and had the cameras. So, I've been thinking about it and had to share when I saw this thread on here.
 
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Question: Do coyotes learn to identify the smell of scent blockers (if it's on the clothing, they can smell it)and associate them with killer humans?

The canine nose is difficult enough to fool, as is his eyesight and intelligence, but I have spooked dogs with sounds as much as scents. Years ago, I was stalking a very smart one over a period of months. Finally, I saw him approach at 125 yards as I was sitting in my pickup (parked for over four hours). The wind was hitting 80 mph gusts and steady at 65 to 70mph broadside of us. He had his nose to the ground chasing something (mouse?).
I was facing his side profile with the wind direction howling from his tail toward his head. The window was down, I eased my Model 70 out, centering his neck in my crosshairs.
He was totally focused on pawing at the ground when I flipped the safety off. Almost instantly, his head snapped up with eyes pointed right in my direction! He almost backflipped and was gone before I could scope him again.
Not trying to add another parameter to the argument, but given all the extraordinary senses a canine is equipped with, hunger must be the only force strong enough to bring them into our range...scents included
 
This post has turned into a this works for me thread, so if you don't agree you are wrong.

I wrote a paper in college about canine senses and found a study showing a coyote could scent a 1 lb piece of meat at a mile in a ten mile an hour wind. (that's pretty good) There are also studies that show they can pinpoint sound to within 1 degree of its origin. (that's pretty good too)

There are three things that will bring a coyote to your call. Curiousity, hunger, and aggression. I doubt you will ever fool their nose in either of these cases but they are more likely to abandon their senses for hunger or aggression. I have seen many coyotes come from straight downwind on a dead run, that did not stop for scent or sound but kept coming full tilt until I waved my arms. Does that mean they could not smell or hear me? No it means they chose to ignore those senses to feed a greater need.

A coyotes greatest natural predator is a wolf and you can find lots of video proof showing they will abandon their senses. They can see the wolves and They can smell the wolves but their sensability tells them they need food.
 
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Well, I always like to see folks defend their position. Way I look at it is... If it works for you, knock yourself out. The one thing a person could do is try it(whatever IT may be)and see if it makes any difference. If you're happy doing things your way and it works for you, who cares if anyone else agrees or not. I think the cleaner you are the better....But I'd put my money on the wind direction and the critter's nose and other senses. The closer you need that critter to come to you in order to get a shot the more important those things are. In my neck of the woods we won't be seeing, much less shooting 400-500 yards. Those things all factor in. Good hunting to all, no matter how you do it!---Ben Jimmy
 
Thanks men , the last five posts are great ones...I like objective people , I don't wear scent loc on all my coyote hunts ,I also dont always wear camofluage except from the waist up ...But IF the wind direction is difficult to get in and out of ...I WILL USE SCENT LOC just to be able to hunt a certain area or 2 ....I have killed alot of coyotes in brown carhart coverall's sitting in the middle of tall bluestem grass as I have total camofluage , But IF it is for ALL THE MARBLES , YOU BETTER BET I'M 100% All in ,no holds barred !!! Thanks and peace to all...well except for a new aquaintance that was made today ... SHampton ...you might be headed to a huge ranch in the next couple of weeks north of Hominy !
 
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