emeraldterriers1
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ksyotehuntr where did you read there is a season where you can run coyotes with dogs but can't shoot them?
Kansas illegal hunters!!!!!!
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catwhacker
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Originally Posted By: Passmorefor the record i dont care bout the ranchers/farmers that carry thier firearms with em cause almost all of em have calfs or should be close and coyotes are lurking in the shadows just waiting. thanks to them its how i get most of my permission
I would do the same thing if I was a rancher / farmer. They are just protecting there own interest.
I would do the same thing if I was a rancher / farmer. They are just protecting there own interest.
canislatrans54
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Originally Posted By: getfoxyWill i really want to read what you have posted i'n green but i can't lol.
I got rid of the green coloring, just for you.LOL
I got rid of the green coloring, just for you.LOL
hydrology_joe
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Originally Posted By: PassmoreFor those of you who thinks it is legal to shoot at yotes from a truck with shotguns, rifles or otherwise you are wrong. Not legal at all. You can pursue them in vehicles and with dogs but can't shoot from any vehicle without a permit and cannot hunt from any roadway. I have verified this with the KDWP multiple times now and my neighbor who is a KDWP officer back it up.
Passmore & ksyotehunter, you are incorrect. KAR 115-5-1(c)(7) allows you to shoot from a vehicle as long as you have permission from the landowner to hunt. Please stop repeating incorrect information. I again verified this with the KDWP office this morning.
Passmore & ksyotehunter, you are incorrect. KAR 115-5-1(c)(7) allows you to shoot from a vehicle as long as you have permission from the landowner to hunt. Please stop repeating incorrect information. I again verified this with the KDWP office this morning.
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canislatrans54
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Any time, Gary.
NM Leon
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According to Mark Rankin of the KDWP, it is legal to shoot coyotes from a moving vehicle on county, township, or private roads as long as you have permission from the adjacent land owner.
It is illegal from state or federal highways.
That's the end of the story. If you don't like it, don't participate, but don't slam legal hunters or methods here at Predator Masters.
We are a HUNTING advocacy organization, not a calling, or dog, or bow, or trap, etc. organization, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT AN ANTI HUNTING ORGANIZATION!!
It is illegal from state or federal highways.
That's the end of the story. If you don't like it, don't participate, but don't slam legal hunters or methods here at Predator Masters.
We are a HUNTING advocacy organization, not a calling, or dog, or bow, or trap, etc. organization, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT AN ANTI HUNTING ORGANIZATION!!
canislatrans54
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nmleon...
Thanks for clearing this up.
And again, I want to stress that my previous post was not meant to offend, or upset anyone.
If it did, I'm sorry.
In that post, I just wanted to make it clear that I have spent my life around coyote hunters, in Kansas, & am well aware of the laws pertaining to the methods.
Yes, there are those, regardless of method, who tear up crops, fences & such & give all of us a bad name.
Happy Hunting to everyone, & let's learn to live & work together.
Thanks for clearing this up.
And again, I want to stress that my previous post was not meant to offend, or upset anyone.
If it did, I'm sorry.
In that post, I just wanted to make it clear that I have spent my life around coyote hunters, in Kansas, & am well aware of the laws pertaining to the methods.
Yes, there are those, regardless of method, who tear up crops, fences & such & give all of us a bad name.
Happy Hunting to everyone, & let's learn to live & work together.
Rocky1
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Originally Posted By: catwhackerI just got back from Kansas and this is what I was told. NO SHOOTING FROM TRUCK. The three ranchers that stopped to talk to us didn't seem to get this message all three had loaded rifles on the front seat. So did one road hunter that stopped to talk.
Well...
1.) Personally mine are usually loaded on the truck seat too. It's been my experience over the years that an empty gun just ain't much good at killing whatever I may be shooting at, and I really don't think I could throw it far enough or straight enough to knock a critter out with it.
2.) Many if not most states consider the gun unloaded, unless there is a round in the chamber. And, many if not most, do find it legal to openly carry long guns in the cab of the vehicle.
3.) On the truck seat is much less obvious than hanging in the back window, less apt to get your guns stolen. It's easier to access for use than hanging in the back window, or hanging behind the seat. And, it's much safer than hanging in the back window or beind the seat, since the muzzle is pointed at the ground at all times. Hanging in the back window, it's pointed at someone's head if it's loaded; and all guns should be considered loaded, at all times. Taking it out of the vehicle is especially dangerous!! It's bad enough when it's hanging still in the back window, when you start moving it, where things could snag the trigger, it's spooky. Even if it is unloaded, in the back window is great for people getting hit in the back of the head with a barrell occasionally. I have never been a fan of gun racks in vehicles.
4.) The law, from a common sense perspective, was designed to prevent people hunting from the road, from shooting across traffic. The intent of the law is, to get you out of your truck, where you are more apt to be aware of your surroundings, e.g. aware of on-coming traffic, people walking around the vehicle, etc... While in your truck, you have the radio going, the heater fan going, engine noise, leaky exhaust, wife/girlfriend/kids/drunk buddy yapping at you. And, you are generally there for sport, so your focus may not be real intense to begn with. The lawmakers want you to step out of your vehicle, away from the distractions inherit therein. It isn't about sport, it's about safety.
That farmer/rancher on the other hand is there working and protecting his livestock. He's typically on his own property, knows who's there if anyone is, knows where they are on the property. He's generally in the middle of the field when he sees a yote from his pickup, not sitting in the middle or on the shoulder of the road when he's shooting. Granted if he sees one from the road, he may be subject to shoot it from the road, from the truck cab; I ain't gonna argue that point. But, while I do see folks occasionally being written up for shooting from a vehicle, typically they are charged with hunting from the road, and/or other violations as well. I can't say that I've ever seen anyone charged with shooting from a vehicle, when they were sitting in the middle of their own field.
Well...
1.) Personally mine are usually loaded on the truck seat too. It's been my experience over the years that an empty gun just ain't much good at killing whatever I may be shooting at, and I really don't think I could throw it far enough or straight enough to knock a critter out with it.
2.) Many if not most states consider the gun unloaded, unless there is a round in the chamber. And, many if not most, do find it legal to openly carry long guns in the cab of the vehicle.
3.) On the truck seat is much less obvious than hanging in the back window, less apt to get your guns stolen. It's easier to access for use than hanging in the back window, or hanging behind the seat. And, it's much safer than hanging in the back window or beind the seat, since the muzzle is pointed at the ground at all times. Hanging in the back window, it's pointed at someone's head if it's loaded; and all guns should be considered loaded, at all times. Taking it out of the vehicle is especially dangerous!! It's bad enough when it's hanging still in the back window, when you start moving it, where things could snag the trigger, it's spooky. Even if it is unloaded, in the back window is great for people getting hit in the back of the head with a barrell occasionally. I have never been a fan of gun racks in vehicles.
4.) The law, from a common sense perspective, was designed to prevent people hunting from the road, from shooting across traffic. The intent of the law is, to get you out of your truck, where you are more apt to be aware of your surroundings, e.g. aware of on-coming traffic, people walking around the vehicle, etc... While in your truck, you have the radio going, the heater fan going, engine noise, leaky exhaust, wife/girlfriend/kids/drunk buddy yapping at you. And, you are generally there for sport, so your focus may not be real intense to begn with. The lawmakers want you to step out of your vehicle, away from the distractions inherit therein. It isn't about sport, it's about safety.
That farmer/rancher on the other hand is there working and protecting his livestock. He's typically on his own property, knows who's there if anyone is, knows where they are on the property. He's generally in the middle of the field when he sees a yote from his pickup, not sitting in the middle or on the shoulder of the road when he's shooting. Granted if he sees one from the road, he may be subject to shoot it from the road, from the truck cab; I ain't gonna argue that point. But, while I do see folks occasionally being written up for shooting from a vehicle, typically they are charged with hunting from the road, and/or other violations as well. I can't say that I've ever seen anyone charged with shooting from a vehicle, when they were sitting in the middle of their own field.
Passmore
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well then KDWP doesnt agree depending on which office and officer it is because i also verified with them. The Emporia, KS office and officer if you want to contact them feel free. It is $500 first offense for shooting from any vehicle without a permit. they also said it doesnt matter if you are on a roadway or in a pasture it is illegal! dont try to tell me im wrong when that is straight word for word from the office and KDWP officer who i live next door to. nmelon if you dont like it then you should prob not participate lol
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I sent them a email so i can print off and have it in hand (if i ever get stopped for shooting out of my truck)proof of what they told me. I just have to wait for a reply. Ill let you know what they say cause it sounds like you get a differnt answer when you talk to differnt people.
hydrology_joe
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Passmore, you were given incorrect information by your neighbor and the office you called. nmleon and I have both verified the correct information from the LE Division in Pratt. You now have the correct information regarding shooting of coyotes from vehicles. If you do not believe us, feel free to contact the LE Division for yourself.
ksyotehuntr
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hydrology joe, KAR 115-5-1(c)(7) says nothing about shooting from a vehicle! Its states that you can use a motor vehicle to assist in hunting coyotes along with the use of cb radios in the vehicle. No where does it say hunting is authorized from inside or through the window of a vehicle unless a handicap/disability permit is present. That means from inside of the bed of a pickup also.
Passmore
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hydrology joe i just called and they quoted to me word for word KAR 115-5-1(c)(7) just like you guys said and they also told me it says nothing about firearms being legal unless you have a permit! also called my neighbor, he says feel free to shoot from your vehicle he will be happy to issue you a ticket and prove to you what the law states....also said your ticket will be $500 plus $90 court costs. so have fun
1trkyhntr
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I for one don't believe the guys story about wanting that shotgun for hunting coyotes or any other animal. The first thought than ran through my mind was that he might be a convicted felon and can't buy a gun except through a private seller. I don't know what he wanted the 20" gun for, but I don't think he has hunting in mind. Just my thoughts based on 30 years law enforcement experience.