Kimber Rifles
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Here are my primary hunting rifles and they are all Kimbers. A perspective on these rifles is that they have pushed aside a matched quartet of pre 64 70's and many other pre 64's Featherweights etc.
From left to right is a 8400 in 270 WSM with a 3-9 Conquest. The mounts have been replaced with Talley Lightweights. This rifle stays sighted in which is #1 with me and makes about .75 MOA three shot groups or better shooting the 140 Accubond.
Center is a quite new 84M in 308. It has a Zeiss Diatal on it and it weighs only six pounds as you see it. Thats now my favorite woods and mountain gun. If the snow were deep I would carry it for coyotes as well.
Last to the right is the 84M in 243. This rifle was perfect out of the box and is on a run now of no misses on crows. Shown is a 4.5-14 Vari-x 111 Tac. but its been upgraded to a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14.
Not to hi-jack, but I was just eyeballing a 84M in .308 just like your middle one. I just couldn't believe how lite that rifle was. Is the recoil pretty sharp being that lite? I've been using a .338 WM for deer for quite a few years now and I think I'm starting to get sensitive to recoil. I don't want to jump from the frying pan into the fire if you know what I mean. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
Here are my primary hunting rifles and they are all Kimbers. A perspective on these rifles is that they have pushed aside a matched quartet of pre 64 70's and many other pre 64's Featherweights etc.
From left to right is a 8400 in 270 WSM with a 3-9 Conquest. The mounts have been replaced with Talley Lightweights. This rifle stays sighted in which is #1 with me and makes about .75 MOA three shot groups or better shooting the 140 Accubond.
Center is a quite new 84M in 308. It has a Zeiss Diatal on it and it weighs only six pounds as you see it. Thats now my favorite woods and mountain gun. If the snow were deep I would carry it for coyotes as well.
Last to the right is the 84M in 243. This rifle was perfect out of the box and is on a run now of no misses on crows. Shown is a 4.5-14 Vari-x 111 Tac. but its been upgraded to a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14.
Not to hi-jack, but I was just eyeballing a 84M in .308 just like your middle one. I just couldn't believe how lite that rifle was. Is the recoil pretty sharp being that lite? I've been using a .338 WM for deer for quite a few years now and I think I'm starting to get sensitive to recoil. I don't want to jump from the frying pan into the fire if you know what I mean. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
claimbuster
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Unfortunately, I am on the other side of the Kimber fence. A few years back I fell in love with a Super America in 22LR. Probably one of the most beautiful rifles I have ever seen short of a Dakota. With every type of ammo possible, including high end match ammunition, it wouldn't hold a 2" group at 50 yds. Then I bought an 84M in 260 Remington, once again very poor accuracy. I realize I may have gotten two lemons in a row but I am sure scared off Kimber rifles. Kimber 1911's is another story. They have been fantastic. I also have a Kimber of Oregon, that I found NIB about three years ago chambered in 25-20. It was not immediately a winner but it is now getting pretty close.
nef,
Your quite observant if you picked out the 308 from the three. Thats the rifle thats really unique. The recoil is nominal. The reasons for the very light recoil from that 308 is the very straight stock and the Decelerator pad. When I think back how we all got hammered by 30-06's with hard butts and a lot of drop in the stock I wince.
Another thing is that the 84M is so small that it's easy to hold onto. The 308 series of cartridges do kick less than the larger ones.
Your quite observant if you picked out the 308 from the three. Thats the rifle thats really unique. The recoil is nominal. The reasons for the very light recoil from that 308 is the very straight stock and the Decelerator pad. When I think back how we all got hammered by 30-06's with hard butts and a lot of drop in the stock I wince.
Another thing is that the 84M is so small that it's easy to hold onto. The 308 series of cartridges do kick less than the larger ones.
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nef,
Your quite observant if you picked out the 308 from the three. Thats the rifle thats really unique. The recoil is nominal. The reasons for the very light recoil from that 308 is the very straight stock and the Decelerator pad. When I think back how we all got hammered by 30-06's with hard butts and a lot of drop in the stock I wince.
Another thing is that the 84M is so small that it's easy to hold onto. The 308 series of cartridges do kick less than the larger ones.
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nef,
Your quite observant if you picked out the 308 from the three. Thats the rifle thats really unique. The recoil is nominal. The reasons for the very light recoil from that 308 is the very straight stock and the Decelerator pad. When I think back how we all got hammered by 30-06's with hard butts and a lot of drop in the stock I wince.
Another thing is that the 84M is so small that it's easy to hold onto. The 308 series of cartridges do kick less than the larger ones.
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2muchgun
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Problems with Kimber quality is no secret. On the various sites I frequent, new posts come up every day, and have been for quite some time. New Kimbers go up for sale daily at astonishing rates by people who bought them and were dissatisfied. Some of the people I know, some I don't. I'm not saying that none of them are any good, but I am saying that a lot of them have been bad also. Buying one right now is a roll of the dice. There are many other makes out there right now with far less problems...
2 much gun,
Show me the facts on the problems. Also be sure to include the legion of fatal accidents with Remington 700's and 722's due to the triggers going off and the Sako and Tikka blowups.
Its true that all Kimbers are not perfect but in my actual experiance having owned them and many other rifles I feel that they are the finest production rifle made today.
Show me the facts on the problems. Also be sure to include the legion of fatal accidents with Remington 700's and 722's due to the triggers going off and the Sako and Tikka blowups.
Its true that all Kimbers are not perfect but in my actual experiance having owned them and many other rifles I feel that they are the finest production rifle made today.
Tim Neitzke
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Is it certian guns/cals? Or is it QC in general?
I have heard here and there about the trouble with WSM's feeding smoothly.
Tim
I have heard here and there about the trouble with WSM's feeding smoothly.
Tim
hitman2565
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"2muchgun" have you personally had any problems your Kimbers? I have not had any problems with any of mine and every other Kimber I know of has had no problems either. I just wanted to know your bad experiences with them.
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Those synthetic (Kevlar?) stocked Kimbers are beautiful rifles! I checked out the Kimber website and there are no photos or info on synthetic stocked rifles, just wood and laminated wood. Are the synthetics a special order item? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
You must have been looking in the wrong areas.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/84m/montana.php
Those synthetic (Kevlar?) stocked Kimbers are beautiful rifles! I checked out the Kimber website and there are no photos or info on synthetic stocked rifles, just wood and laminated wood. Are the synthetics a special order item? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
You must have been looking in the wrong areas.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/84m/montana.php
Yeah, I was looking in the wrong area. I was looking at the Varmint rifles and even there I see now where to read that there are indeed models with the Kevlar stocks, they just weren't pictured. There I go again, looking at the pretty pictures and forgetting to read the text.
Thanks nefj40! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
Thanks nefj40! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
hi all, 1st post. i purchased a new 84M in a pro varmit 22-250 for myself for christmas. bullets were all over the place when i went to sight it in. took it home, took it apart to lighten the triger as much as possible and found absolutley no torque on the mount bolts, i think 40 in lbs on the front and 65 on the rear are called for IIRC. after tightening them, its a fantastic shooter. thats a friday afternoon assembly QC. but component and accuracy wise, i'm very happy with it and will be looking at an 8400 as my next purchase from them.
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I feel you are wrong. And I also know that you are well aware of the MANY QC problems they have been having, aren't you?
I have put the Kimber situation in a proper context. I have had many guns and some had problems. The thing is that the Kimbers are just right for me being lightweight, SS, state of the art stocks, made in the usa, safe, easy to buy, accurate and most of all have potential.
You did not address the blowups with Sako/Tikka or the many deaths from Remington accidental discharges.
As far as I can see 2MUCHGUN is that I can do it and you can't do it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I feel you are wrong. And I also know that you are well aware of the MANY QC problems they have been having, aren't you?
I have put the Kimber situation in a proper context. I have had many guns and some had problems. The thing is that the Kimbers are just right for me being lightweight, SS, state of the art stocks, made in the usa, safe, easy to buy, accurate and most of all have potential.
You did not address the blowups with Sako/Tikka or the many deaths from Remington accidental discharges.
As far as I can see 2MUCHGUN is that I can do it and you can't do it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I picked an 84M with the 22 inch barrel. It's lightweight and nimble. When I first got it I tried several loads with different powders and projectiles. Every thing shot sub MOA but I expected smaller groups. Well, after some extensive work I've found a few loads that will consistantly punch 5 shot 1/4" groups. No one here has mentioned the Kimber trigger so I will. It's the finest factory trigger I've encountered and I've encountered a bunch of them.
It's a perfect calling rifle. Light weight, fast pointing and accurate. It's also a beautiful rifle. Very pleasing to the eye. I'm not crazy about long barreled heavy guns but that's just me. I'd love to have one of these 84M's in 204.
It's a perfect calling rifle. Light weight, fast pointing and accurate. It's also a beautiful rifle. Very pleasing to the eye. I'm not crazy about long barreled heavy guns but that's just me. I'd love to have one of these 84M's in 204.
boy, just going through the threads on here, fairly new obviously......and I think this thread is going to get me to pounce on a 84m varmint in 22-250 I found. Really really good deal, but it does make me wonder a little.....NO eyes to check it out before hand so it's an all or nothing deal.
tripod3
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Having a friend that owned a gun store selling over 40,000 guns I have seen way too many Kimber problems first hand. The wood dept is one big area along with chamber accuracy problems. Some of the Top End guns would come in visually poor, many would show large gaps between the stock and barrel while hitting hard on the other side, and then the arguing phone calls would begin. They even treat stocking dealers with disrespect especially when they have the gall to send a crapper gun back.
Remington has had issues for years and it has somewhat caught up with them.
Sako had a bad batch of sainless steel and took care of the problem. Do you know of anybody unhappy with it. I called and checked my serial numbers with no hitches. Beretta has been in business for 500 years, just a couple days longer than Kimber.
I would never say all Kimbers are worthless but there is a known risk with a company that has changed hands under financial stress and I have seen worse than poor service with an aggressive attitude. I have been offered Kimbers at cost and chosen something else everytime.
Remington has had issues for years and it has somewhat caught up with them.
Sako had a bad batch of sainless steel and took care of the problem. Do you know of anybody unhappy with it. I called and checked my serial numbers with no hitches. Beretta has been in business for 500 years, just a couple days longer than Kimber.
I would never say all Kimbers are worthless but there is a known risk with a company that has changed hands under financial stress and I have seen worse than poor service with an aggressive attitude. I have been offered Kimbers at cost and chosen something else everytime.
Well,
What is a good rifle? I was considering the savage fvss but figured I'd need a new stock. The remington vssf II, but figured I'd need a trigger job till I found this site and found the reference to a trigger job how too. Or now this kimber that I found a few days ago. Thankfully the guy is out deer hunting which is giving me time to find the info I need.
Really I dont want a laminated stock. They do not hold up in the cold up here at all. And I'd prefer a stainless barrel atleast or all stainless.
Talk to me here. I'm a longbow shooter and have been for 17 years now. I want a predator rifle. It'll work quite well with our setup. Oh in 22-250.
What is a good rifle? I was considering the savage fvss but figured I'd need a new stock. The remington vssf II, but figured I'd need a trigger job till I found this site and found the reference to a trigger job how too. Or now this kimber that I found a few days ago. Thankfully the guy is out deer hunting which is giving me time to find the info I need.
Really I dont want a laminated stock. They do not hold up in the cold up here at all. And I'd prefer a stainless barrel atleast or all stainless.
Talk to me here. I'm a longbow shooter and have been for 17 years now. I want a predator rifle. It'll work quite well with our setup. Oh in 22-250.