We saw that rockler has the exelsior bundle on sale, it gets good reviews on rocklers website, but if you go to other places for reviews it says it is under powered and the slowest speed of 760 is too fast. So we are looking at the Nova Comet ii, the delta 46-460, and the Jet 1015 (maybe the variable speed). Guess the hard part is not really having an idea of what we will be primarily turning with it in the long run. Hate to spend the money on the excelsior (even though it is much cheaper) if it will be a dud in the long run.