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Benchmark barrels for the Ruger will shoot into tiny holes from my 1st hand experiance shooting my pals Ruger customs, danged smooth actions.
BHW barrels may be hit or miss, one I had didn't shoot anything under and inch, the other shot everything into sub moa. I still prefer regular rifled barrels for a custom accurate build.
CBI barrels shoot danged super small holes on paper & p-dogs, my 20cal was more than perfect.
McGowans barrels shoot tiny groups as well as any other, my 6x45 still shoots sub little holes in targets.
ERShaw barrels from midwayusa are danged accurate on my .223.
BHW barrels may be hit or miss, one I had didn't shoot anything under and inch, the other shot everything into sub moa. I still prefer regular rifled barrels for a custom accurate build.
CBI barrels shoot danged super small holes on paper & p-dogs, my 20cal was more than perfect.
McGowans barrels shoot tiny groups as well as any other, my 6x45 still shoots sub little holes in targets.
ERShaw barrels from midwayusa are danged accurate on my .223.
Rock Knocker
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My Criterion barrel has realy impressed me.
Originally Posted By: Winny FanOriginally Posted By: K22A good barrel on a Ruger?????
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I was just pulling his chain. Besides, I was keeping with the theme of his thread heading.
The tang safety Rugers used Douglas barrels for many years and had very good reviews.
I have an early (2 position safety) Kimber Classic in 7-08 that required polishing the chamber, but other than that it shoots good.
I like Lilja barrels a lot, so that would be my choice.
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I was just pulling his chain. Besides, I was keeping with the theme of his thread heading.
I have an early (2 position safety) Kimber Classic in 7-08 that required polishing the chamber, but other than that it shoots good.
I like Lilja barrels a lot, so that would be my choice.
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Winny Fan
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Originally Posted By: K22Originally Posted By: Winny FanOriginally Posted By: K22A good barrel on a Ruger?????
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I was just pulling his chain. Besides, I was keeping with the theme of his thread heading.
The tang safety Rugers used Douglas barrels for many years and had very good reviews.
I have an early (2 position safety) Kimber Classic in 7-08 that required polishing the chamber, but other than that it shoots good.
I like Lilja barrels a lot, so that would be my choice.
Some tang safety Rugers also came with a barrel that Ruger was supposedly paying less than $3 a piece for, and they did have problems with them. Like most things, they got that boat righted by finally making their own barrels, but the reputation lingered.
The Kimber 7MM-08 issue was with new style Yonkers rifles and dates back 5+ years or so. A friend in San Antonio had one and it shot terribly. He sent it back and Kimber told him they would not re-barrel it to 7MM-08 until they got the problem solved and they sent it back as a 257 Robt. He abruptly sold it without shooting it.
I bought a Custom Classic in 7MM-08 about two years ago and it is a tack diver, but you still hear about the bad ones when the names 7MM-08 and Kimber surfaces.
To get back on topic - These types of things don't happen with a custom barrel and any maker with a good reputation will turn out a great product. If you do get an occasional bad one, they will bend over backward to make it right.
There are no 100% guarantees on anything, but the chances of getting a bad custom barrel are very small from any of the common names. I have and will in the future spend my money in several different locations and not look back. One is as good as the next, and for me it often comes down to availability and time.
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I was just pulling his chain. Besides, I was keeping with the theme of his thread heading.
I have an early (2 position safety) Kimber Classic in 7-08 that required polishing the chamber, but other than that it shoots good.
I like Lilja barrels a lot, so that would be my choice.
Some tang safety Rugers also came with a barrel that Ruger was supposedly paying less than $3 a piece for, and they did have problems with them. Like most things, they got that boat righted by finally making their own barrels, but the reputation lingered.
The Kimber 7MM-08 issue was with new style Yonkers rifles and dates back 5+ years or so. A friend in San Antonio had one and it shot terribly. He sent it back and Kimber told him they would not re-barrel it to 7MM-08 until they got the problem solved and they sent it back as a 257 Robt. He abruptly sold it without shooting it.
I bought a Custom Classic in 7MM-08 about two years ago and it is a tack diver, but you still hear about the bad ones when the names 7MM-08 and Kimber surfaces.
To get back on topic - These types of things don't happen with a custom barrel and any maker with a good reputation will turn out a great product. If you do get an occasional bad one, they will bend over backward to make it right.
There are no 100% guarantees on anything, but the chances of getting a bad custom barrel are very small from any of the common names. I have and will in the future spend my money in several different locations and not look back. One is as good as the next, and for me it often comes down to availability and time.
Originally Posted By: Winny FanOriginally Posted By: K22A good barrel on a Ruger?????
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I would have to agree that that would be akin to rebarreling one of those Remington's with a "good" bbl. What a waste of potentially good steel and time........LOL!!!
We can all generalize about something and be correct.
Like you, I'm a huge Kimber fan, but I remember a few years ago when multiple people (read as an entire here of them) were pulling their collective hair out over the extremely poor barrels in 7-08 that Kimber was kicking out. Hence, all Kimbers became an inaccurate rifle to many "in the know".
A lot of people have found Rugers to be very accurate in factory form. The issue of barrels is more an issue of factory guns - they all make some bad ones and we just hear about some of them more than others because its fashionable to be negative at times. The number of Remington distractors here is proof of that.
I would have to agree that that would be akin to rebarreling one of those Remington's with a "good" bbl. What a waste of potentially good steel and time........LOL!!!
chefpierre
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Originally Posted By: Buster HindendI don't know who makes the most accurate
But I like cut rifle barrels
I have used and recommend Krieger, Brux and Bartlein
They all shoot great and clean easily.
However, you may just want to get whichever quality maker that's available currently
Bugholes typically has several quality barrels to pick from on hand
Good luck
My thoughts exactly, but don't forget Obermeyer.
But I like cut rifle barrels
I have used and recommend Krieger, Brux and Bartlein
They all shoot great and clean easily.
However, you may just want to get whichever quality maker that's available currently
Bugholes typically has several quality barrels to pick from on hand
Good luck
My thoughts exactly, but don't forget Obermeyer.
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I have a borescope and have barreled just about every manufacturers barrel made. I always look at the bore front to back first. Here is what I have to say...to the above post, "don't forget Obermeyer"...yep, but by the time you actually get one in your hands you probably will have forgotten all about the whole project. Not all factory barrels are the same, some are worse than others especially Remington. But a good Remington or Winchester barrel will show some light tool marks and both Douglas as well as Shilen will too. In fact I can show you four barrels, all those brands, and you will not be able to tell one from the other. You will not see any tool marks or flaws in Pac-Nor barrels and you wont see any in a Lilja either. I have had better luck with Krieger than I have with Obermeyer {once I finally got one.} Hart makes a fantastic barrel too. But the original question was "for the money." They aint exactly cheap but that language narrows it down to Pac-Nor. One more to consider...Hawk Hills Custom in Virginia. Haven't shot them yet but they sure look good.
Originally Posted By: msincI have a borescope and have barreled just about every manufacturers barrel made. I always look at the bore front to back first. Here is what I have to say...to the above post, "don't forget Obermeyer"...yep, but by the time you actually get one in your hands you probably will have forgotten all about the whole project. Not all factory barrels are the same, some are worse than others especially Remington. But a good Remington or Winchester barrel will show some light tool marks and both Douglas as well as Shilen will too. In fact I can show you four barrels, all those brands, and you will not be able to tell one from the other. You will not see any tool marks or flaws in Pac-Nor barrels and you wont see any in a Lilja either. I have had better luck with Krieger than I have with Obermeyer {once I finally got one.} Hart makes a fantastic barrel too. But the original question was "for the money." They aint exactly cheap but that language narrows it down to Pac-Nor. One more to consider...Hawk Hills Custom in Virginia. Haven't shot them yet but they sure look good.
Good info here.
Good info here.
I have had brux criterion and mcgowen and like them in that order. I have a hart and an obermeyer in the safe waiting on builds. My friend just built a 6xc with a bartlien and it shoots amazing. He has a krieger 300 win mag thatas really impressive as well. Most ofmy friends that shoot benchrest use hart.
There are a lot of good manufacturers these days. Who makes the best barrel, action, etc is impossible to say
There are a lot of good manufacturers these days. Who makes the best barrel, action, etc is impossible to say
nightcaller
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I'd watch some threads on long range hunting for a used barrel. "for the money" they are hard to beat. just got all of the components for my next build and ended up with a benchmark that was fluted, chambered and ready to go with some fired formed brass for $275. the barrel had less than 350 documented rds. we'll see how it turns out.
CAFR
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogThinking of tricking out my Ruger with a new barrel. Gonna keep it 308 but maybe a 260, not sure just yet.
Contest- Who makes the most accurate barrel for the money?? I know we all have our favorites. I have used Hart and Douglas so the're not on the list. Whadda ya say??
Go to Classic Barrel Works
Outstanding craftsmanship and just about any custom feature you could want. Danny is a good friend of mine and is currently making a barrel for a Winchester Octagonal 1873 for one of my customer's restoration project that I'm doing. He is also lining another 1873 barrel for me and will soon be making a 6.5-284 barrel for one of my own rifle builds.
Contest- Who makes the most accurate barrel for the money?? I know we all have our favorites. I have used Hart and Douglas so the're not on the list. Whadda ya say??
Go to Classic Barrel Works
Outstanding craftsmanship and just about any custom feature you could want. Danny is a good friend of mine and is currently making a barrel for a Winchester Octagonal 1873 for one of my customer's restoration project that I'm doing. He is also lining another 1873 barrel for me and will soon be making a 6.5-284 barrel for one of my own rifle builds.