Leupold vs Burris

I have both the scopes you are talking about, boy do I love that leupold, the burris is on my browning BAR in 300 win mag, I have only tested the balstic plex out to 300yds and I like, I'll get around to the the 4-5-6 later this summer
 
I have both the Burris FF Balistiplex and a Leupold Vari X II. I will agree with you on all counts. While the Burris is pretty good scope for the money, the Leupold has the edge in sharpness and eye relief. I have the Burris on my AR and sometimes get a little aggrivated with the sensitive eye relief.

Mike
 
One area I will say that Leupold demolishes Burris is customer service. I've had the misfortune of returning three scopes to Burris and never once were they fixed to my satisfaction. This is a non-issue with Leupold.
 
I am comparing the Burris Black Diamond against the Lupe VX-III. I have several VX-III's and am very happy. Should I consider trying the Black Diamond?
 
For ballistic reticles i have 1 of the Leupold VH's, 1 Leupold TMR, 5 Burris Ball. Plex, 1 Burris Ball. Mil-Dot, and 1 Rapid Reticle. When it comes to the most accurate shot placement i prefer the windage stadia of the VH, and Rapid Reticles. I especially like the flexibility of the VH reticle as it offers great elevation and windage apps. with the ballistic reticle, as well as turret comeups with ballistic reticle windage reference.

Having a system established for direct windage reference has been responsible for a number of long-range successful attempts that i wouldn't have had if i wasn't prepared.
 
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I just received my new Loopy VXII 3-9X40 in stainless. Although it's not the first Leupold I've owned....these scopes have always given me the feeling of confidence whenever I use them. This scopes fit and finish, as far as I can determine, is flawless. The glass is bright and clear...edge to edge.

A buddy of mine just bought a scope on E-Bay...came all the way from Hong Kong! When he showed it to me I noticed it was a Tasco, but the model was unfamiliar. It was a 3-9X56 with an illuminated reticle. Not listed in any catalogs that I have. He bragged about the clarity of his scope until I brought out the Loopy and let him have a look. No comparison. The Leupold, with it's 40mm obj, was twice as bright and clear. Nuff said. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
stick with the Leupold. I have leupolds on all of my rifles except one. I decided to try the Nikon 4-16 tactical w/mildot. Clarity is not on the same level as the 4-14 or 6.5-20 tactical Leupolds. I've looked through one Black Diamond and was not impressed in the least bit. Always spend as much as your budjet allows on optics. No sense in having a $800-$2000 rifle with a cheap scope/ring setup on it.
Edited to say that I also have a Docter Optics 2.5-10x48 ill. reticle. These are very good scopes, but along the price of the leupolds.
 
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good point about the windage stadia lines on the VH reticle. I have a VXIII with the B&C reticle on my .338 and it works very well.
I found myself using "Kentucky windage" for the longer distance shots with both scopes. I have a pretty good feel of what the wind will do to my AR so I pull off some pretty long shots on chucks. If I miss, I can usually get another round off real quick & knock 'em down! I know the VH would make my guesswork more of an exact hold. I think my next long range scope will be a Leupy with the VH reticle. When I can afford it, that is!
These great scopes & reticles really make long range shooting a science and I'm real eager to keep learning."

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Fred, i was able to make 2 "long" shots this yr. using the windage reference in MOA in a plex reticle 4-12X Burris Compact that i use like a ballistic reticle on my .17 Mach IV XP-100 handgun this year @ 300 yds. in a 10 mph x-wind. Had my drop/drift data for my load/reticle taped to the scope. The coyote was lasered at exactly 300 yds. and the wind was coming from 3 o'clock at avg. 10 mph according to my speedtech.com weather watch's pop up anemometer. Had to aim .6 stadia units (SU) of the way down to the lower post, and 1.25 SU windage. Worked perfect. I really like the plex retcile for the 17 handgun. Just enuf trajectory compensation for the limited range of the 17 handguns.

Another shot was with my 243 WSSM Striker VH reticle @ 530 yds. in a 10 mph x-wind again from 3:00. Range sticker was something like just over 4th SU, and .5 10 mph windage SU. Again perfect. Used the 115 DTAC bullet, and blew a big hole on the offside shoulder. From now on tho for long-range i'm sticking with the A-Max bullets, as they seem to perform well on coyotes as far as terminal ballistics.

Can't say enuf about the Speedtech watch. What a neat gizmo.
 
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I ordered one Burris, an 8-32 power. When it arrived, I took it out of the box, and the crosswires, were crooked. I boxed it up, and sent it back, and ordered a 8.5-25 power Leupold. That's what I got for trying something new. I had never tried any of the other scopes. My wife a few years back bought me a Zeiss Conquest in 4.5-14. I said all the oohs and aaahs, and never could put it on a rifle. I would feel shameful wearing my Leupold hat had I done such a thing. I traded it for a rifle. I was thinking of buying a Mueller, but ended up getting a couple of good deals from guys here, on a pair of 6-18 Leupolds. I'm a dyed in the wool Leupold man, I'll never switch. After 30 years of good service, unmatched customer service, and a bunch of dead critters, The choice is easy for me. The only thing I've found that is better, are my Unertl's. I will admit, I have never tried the $1000 dollar plus scopes, but I will say, by looking at the equipment list at the BR shoots, Leupold's win more matches. There must be a reason the shooter's are using them. Butcher
 
I'll agree that Leupold makes a great scope, but I like my Burris' too. I have a Burris 1 3/4 X 5 on a Ruger model 77 3006, I bought both new in 1975 and still use this combo for my deer hunting rig, the scope and rifle are now 31 years old and the scope is still bright and clear and holds its zero as well as when it was new, both rifle and scope have been hunted with hard, here in Arkansas and more than a few trips to Colorado and a few other places, they ain't as pretty as they once were but they still perform great. The bad news is I ain't as pretty as I once was either, but I don't perform that great any more.
 
I sold my leupy vari-x III's and replaced them with Burris Signatures and I could not be happier. The rear lense angle on the burris is more forgiving and the larger lenses in the burris main tube make for better low light performance. I have gone away from most leupold optics because I have IMHO found better products. The Burris' I have work better for hunting rifles that I have and I have absolute confidence in them. The first one I bought and put on my sendero in 7mm rem mag (sold the 4.5-14x50 leupy) has never lost zero and has accounted for a literal ton of deer meat.

I purchased a BROKEN 8-32x44 for a great price and sent it to Burris for repair. For the BMD reticle conversion I payed something like $75 and when it came back the turret covers were new and a new bikini cover was included.

after the Burris I jump straight to nightforce or IOR.
 
Yea, I like the Burris scopes too.I replaced all my Leupolds and Bushnell Elites with Burris,and Haven't lost a bit of sleep over it.....Good Hunting Chad
 
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