see this is why i am bummed out about my purchase of the 140 vs the 170,,,arg,,when i loggod on to there web site, i didnt see the reason for the bigger dia 170 vs the 140 because the bulbs are stated the same,,well i get the 140 home and find out the candle power is way different,,HAD I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO READ THE CANDLE POWER ON THE SITE, i would have oppted for the 170,140=250,000 vs 170= 400,000, and for the 15.00 difference i would have went with the 170,,now what do i do? buy the 170 head unit? arg,, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif dafooge