Lion hunting in Iowa

nailbender

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Everybody tells me there is no such thing. But, I've been cutting tracks for 4 yrs.. Two yrs. before any kills. Bummed I didn't get 1st in 140+ yrs.. Tracks today 1 mile from home ( 2nd time) chasing deer track. Any suggestions on bringing home the dream prize? Couldn't quite put my GSP on the trail without tracking collar, don't wan't to lose him.
 
Not sure what you meant by " 1st in 140+ years". One was shot near Ireton in NW IA last year. Another in Council Bluffs. There are several alive and well in NW IA at the moment. Careful, they bite. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
there are supposidy a couple running around here. i have a buddy who drives a maintainer and he seen tracks and took pics of it. but nothing was ever made from it. i would love to get one myself
 
I see where there has been a lot of report of loin sightings in Nebraska at Nebraskaland Outdoor Forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
We saw mt lion tracks 3 years ago at the Winterset Hunt Club in Lorimor in 2 different fields 2 weeks apart. In those 2 weeks a farmer nearby saw the cat cross the road by the clubhouse.
 
Rumor has it that the DNR released 200 mating pairs. I have several friends who hunt in southern Iowa and have seen quit a few.
 
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Rumor has it that the DNR released 200 mating pairs. ................



Male cougars cover a large territory and one typically will service more than one female. Once the mating occurs the male leaves to continue on his "rounds". The female gives birth and completely raises her kittens SOLO.

Before the male is welcome for mating again, the female weans her kittens and causes their "dispersal". If the male finds her kittens he is prone to kill them, so they must be gone before mating occurs.

Here in Washington State, the number one cause of male lion mortality is MALE LIONS!

Three 44s
 
Three 44s is right on the money here,
Lions have huge territories. Nebraska, South Dakota, Kansas, and Missouri all have cats. Common sense says a few are going to wind up in Iowa. Lions have huge dispersal distances. I have talked to a biologist in the black hills that collared a cat and had it turn up in Oklahoma City.

No offense, but I have have several long time friends in the Iowa DNR and the rumor that the DNR released mountain lions in Iowa is complete B.S. Anybody that believe that should do a bit of research into the ecology of large carnivores and what goes into their re-introductions. It did not happened. In addition, to contacts that put me "in the know" with the IA DNR, I have worked for the U.S. forest service and the U.S.G.S. on a major Grizzly Bear study in N.W. Montana, and worked under L. David Meche (if name will mean something if you are serious about large carnivore research) on a wolf study in N.E. Minnesotta. On top of that, I study wildlife biology at Iowa State University and have gotten to know almost every every leading wildlife biologist in the state. What am I trying to get at? If there was a "release" of mountain lions in Iowa I would have heard about it from a creditable sourse. The only way it could have been done is if it was so top secret that the upper ranks of the DNR and the leading wildlife biologists did not know about it. In short, it did not happen.

Yes, we have have mountain lions in the state. Everybody is aware of that. The critical consideration is that there is very, very few of them. That being said; two major factors come into play. 1. A cats range is so large that many if not a vast majority of the sitings are the same damn cat. 2. Because of the rumors of mountain lions being in the state, many "flashes in the brush" turn into "I saw a mountain lion, I am sure of it."

Now, I know experienced outdoorsmen that tell me they had good looks at cats and I believe them. I will not ask that anybodies friend did not see a cat, because it is certainly possible. But the truth of the matter is we don't have very many and the DNR DID NOT RELEASE THEM.

I've approached every wildlife biolist I know asking abouting the feasibility doing a grad study on cats in Iowa, even though I know its pointless, and I get the same answer. There are so few cats in Iowa that the chances of getting a collar on even one single cat isn't worth messing with. That should tell you alot considering the current state of infatuation with large carnivores and that nobody is willing to waste time and money on cats in Iowa.

Sorry about the long post, its kinda a sore subject for me and I think as predator hunters we should be knowledgable of predator ecology and quit helping to fuel stupid rumors.

Matt
 
Yes, there is no season, but they are not a protected species. They fall in the same category as wild hogs, which we are starting to see as well.

GrouseSetter
 
We have had 3 sightings in last 2 years in our area that I know of. One sighting was by a seasoned outdoorsman that I trust. Our DNR deny substantiated sightings, but do not deny a presence. A cat was darted about 40 miles north of here this week. I haven't heard if it was wild or escaped pet. The 140 years thing may have been true 5 years ago, but not any more. There was one taken in sioux city within 5 years and one in cherokee that I know of. There has been quite abit of news on tv and the papers in the last 5 years. They are around, no doubt about it.
 
M Jager,

One thing that amazes me about our cougars is though the males occupy generally very large territories, the females with kittens DONT!

We could just about set our watches to one of the females here as her and her kitten would hit our big alfalfa fields EVERY night at 11:00 to 12:00 midnight last summer.

I believe that in country like Iowa and the other Mid-western states a new cougar behavior could emerge .......... cats using less space.

I reason that this will occur because we have seen this here. These low elevation cats ....... and we are calling them "valley cats" are not ranging so far once they "settle in" to a farm area. AND I think that the reason behind this is PLENTIFUL FOOD!

And a cougar hanging around a farm ........ what's it eating?

Well, everything at least once and the easy ones TWICE!!

Now, at first blush one would think that the cougar is native to your area and in the strictest sense, sure it was.

But at what level? I maintain that anywhere there were wolves ....... the cougar did not fair so well. An open area like the mid-west would pose a perilous future for a cougar with wolves there.

Three 44s
 
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Thanks to you guys my light-hearted post turned out informative and educational. Odds of ever seeing anything but tracks around here are about like the lottery. But a guy can dream can't he?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Nailbender,

You may get to see one yet!!!

They have between one and three kittens per batch and batches are about 1.5 to 2 years apart. Gestation is only 90 days. Those kittens disperse to the nearest (suitable) available real estate and set up house keeping!!

And the best way to up your odds on seeing one is to get acquainted with their sign. Work an area known to contain a lion, work with local farmers and help them to get "sign wise". Somebody around you will be bound to enjoy getting in the act.

Can you use hounds legally in your state?

If so, THAT one factor will net cats more than anything else.

Three 44s
 
There is no regulations concerning lions in Iowa that I know of. Someone will probably blast me if I don't mention firarm safety etc.. My shorthair would probably run the track, but, it would surely cross many property lines. And he'd probably get his butt killed before I caught up. A couple years back, a few farmers were having some sporadic trouble. There must be enough deer around to keep them happy lately. One spot I gained permission on a while back, when I asked the guy piped up and said "coyotes?? not lion" he had heard one yowling out back the week before. This is a place within 1/4 mile of town where they have boy scout camp- outs in summer. So, you never know!
 
How about this guy ?


Just another one of those hoax Emails floating around.



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Ooowee! Thats a big un!! I just got a tip on where the locals are hanging out. Only about 5 miles from home. Female & 1 yearling. The landowner wants it himself though.
 
This picture circulated on the net quite awhile back. There were all kinds of stories associated with the picture. I think it was killed in about 10 different states! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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