Little nervous now just finished bedding my rifle with in weld.

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Well I watched tons of videos before I decided to do this. I finally decided to do it have had the stuff for months to do it. I'm not going to lie I'm a little nervous about it coming apart in the morning. I hope it helps accuracy it already shot good but every bit can help right. I used kiwi shoe polish for release agent and taped off the stock and used play or for the rest were I didn't want stuff. I help it turns out well.
 
I just finished a 700 Remington a couple days ago. There is always a bit of uneasiness for me and I've done probably a dozen or so over the years.
Only ever ruined one stock and that was years ago.

I use Devcon 10110, it's extremely hard and it gives you quite abit of work time and I like it's thick consistency. I do let mine set overnight but everyone has their own way of doing things.

Good luck, I hope everything goes well.
Let us know
 
I've always gave them about 3 hours or so depending on the temp, pop them out and clean things up and then stick them back together for the night. I use the 10110 also i think its the best for bedding..
 
Well I pulled it apart this morning and it wasn't hard enough yet I don't think. Some of it peeled off as I pulled the actio out. Also pulled the recoil lug out of the stock. Don't know what savage used to glue it into the stock. I'm going to try it again except I might clean it up with a dremel and a sandi g drum. The bedding looked good just peeled off pretty easily. If it does it again I might just have to find something else to use. The shoe polish did work good as a release agent though. Any tips would be great. I used jb weld for epoxy. This is on a factory savage axis stock.
 
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Is the stock a plastic stock or overmoulded stock? They can be problematic for bedding. The Plastic/Nylon/whatever has a lot of oil in them and sometimes the beddning just doesn't stay. If it is wood or fiberglass it should have stayed unless you didn't ruff it up first.
 
What ever the factory axis stock is I think it plastic of some type. I'm going to try and sand it more and clean it better and give it another try.
 
You need to use Devcon 10110

Sand to rough things up a little and degrease

drill some small holes for the devcon to bond to...

JMO though....
 
I'm pretty much with red dog. I use devcon, johnsons floor wax (way better), and I also rough up the interior a good bit. I did one plastic stock for my partner, and I actually set it in a blasting cabinet and blasted the bedding surface. Worked even better than expected.

I have done about 20 stocks, and after I switched to devcon and johnsons, I can't tell a difference between mine and a $300 job. They are very smooth, free of bubbles and a quick trip to my friends machine shop allows me to clean up the edges on a mill. Saves me a ton of money.
 
I've only used JB weld once and that was on a 22 rifle. I mostly used it because I just wanted to see how it compared to Accraglas that I had used before. I don't think it's the best choice out there. I am a big believer in the Devcon now, especially if I am going to bed the complete receiver. On something like a 700 Remington it gets awful thin along the sides next to the mag well.

Plastic stocks bring a challenge not only in getting stuff to bond to them, but also in getting a true stress free bed job. I do like the glass bead idea though, I've got a Marlin X7VH I've been thinking of doing, I might try that.

Hope you get it straightened out.
 
I have bedded 8 or 9 rifles, always used regular old car wax as a release agent. I slop it on with a Q tip, making sure to put a thick coat in all the corners. Never had a problem pulling them apart the next day.
 
every time they have a problem, it is because they used some kind of wax.

There have been so many problems with new guys learning to bed, that I tell them straight out that I will not teach them how to bed unless they use Brownell's spray Accra Release agent.

NONE of the new guys EVER HAVE A PROBLEM when they use this Brownell's product.

I let my guns sit for 3 days before I touch them and in cold weather, 7 days on my kitchen table.

I have used a variety of bedding compounds:

Devcon
Marine Tex
Bisonite
these three are the best

Probably 80% or more of the gunsmiths out there use Marine tex. Marine Corp used to use Bisonite.

I degrease all parts twice with brake cleaner. Then give two coats of the Spray accra release, including chamber and lug recess. When you are finished, the accra release washes off with the brake cleaner, easy and quick. Getting release agent down in the chamber and lug recess is critical, all knooks and cranies in the trigger area, etc. The spray gets in these areas real easy, and also cleans up easy.

A can of accra release cost around $32 and you can bed 10 guns with it, and just forget ANY issue with the action sticking.


So, if you want to dive into bedding your own gun, Marine tex Grey or Devcon, can of brake cleaner, and Brownell's accra release, and you will have zero problems...none!

I can't say that there is anything wrong with JB Weld, and I would not get the quick dry unless I was just bedding the recoil lug.

I have not had great success with plastic stocks in as far as really improving the accuracy with the exception of one Rem sps in 7 mag. I always drill a bunch of 1/8"holes, rough up the surface, degrease with brake cleaner. The epoxy has always stuck to the sides. Problem with plastic stocks is that they are very flexible in the pistol grip, and just in front of the recoil lug. The 7 mag that I had good luck with, I filled the forearm full of 1/4" steel rods, JB weld, and free floated the barrel.

Since plastic stock rifles are usually not a long range rifle, bedding may be a waste of time, stock replacement is advisable if you are wanting to seriously improve your groups.
 
I've used a ProBed2000 product that Brownells used to sell with Pam cooking spray as a release agent, and Devcon on many more rifles with Kiwi polish as a release agent. I've never had a single issue. I always let them sit 24 hours. Roughing up the inside of the stock is a must, especially in areas with limited bonding surface.
 
The trick with jb weld is to let it sit outside for a few hours when it's -20 below zero, bring it in sit down, grab the stock up front with one hand, with the other hand give the barrel a good wack. simple and works everytime.
 
Just finished a Boyd's stock and used Acra Glas gel. I used the release agent that came with the kit. I brushed it on with a soft brush, let it dry, then gave it a second coat and let it dry. After about three hours, I removed the stock from the action and cleaned up the mag area and a couple of other places. Re-assembled and let it set till the next day. The action came right out, finished cleaning the stock up, cleaned up all the metal and re-assembled. I haven't taken it to the range yet but I like to let it cure for at least 24-36 hours. No problems with this one.
To the OP, you said the Acra-Glas kit was way over kill for what you needed. You only mix up what you need. It will keep.
 
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Psyco, that is brush on Accra Release that comes with that kit. In the future, degrease the action with brake cleaner so that the Accra Release will seep down in the pores with no contamination from other cleaning fluids other ?. You applied two coats, that was great, one stuck to the stock, the other to the action. Wash off the release agent with the brake cleaner. I like the spray Accra Release agent because you can spray it into the lug recess and chamber. After you have prepped the stock, added the bedding compound in the stock, and are about to set in the action, bedding compound can seep up through the screw holes into the lug recess and chamber. If you have sprayed this area with the accra Release, there is no problem getting that bedding compound out of those tough to get at areas...none what so ever.
 


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