LIVE TRAPPING COYOTES

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snakehollow joe

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Has anyone done much trapping of coyotes in here in a live trap?? I have a live trap for coyotes that has a small wire box on the end of the trap that you put a chicken or something in for bait. what do most of you use and just how do you trap all help would be great. thanks.
 
Welcome to the board Joe /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I can't say that I'd put a live chicken in the back of that trap. I'd be thinkin more on the lines of a rabbit, or something closer to their own habitat.
It's going to be tough enough to get a coyote to crawl into it without the fact that there's some wild looking bait at the other end for him.
I heard a story once about a guy that had an Otter problem. It kept coming up on his deck and taking a crap, puking up it's fish, etc. So, he went and bought a live trap to catch it in.
He left the trap in the box with the door end of the box cut out after several failed attempts to lure the thing inside. Seems the otter didn't feel safe until he had to crawl into a dark hole to get the bait.

My point being...whatever you use for bait, hide the trap as best as you can. Wait...hide it better then as best as you can. Leave absolutely nothing exposed but the door end.
Maybe in the base of a muldaflower rose bush (did I spell that right?) or under a thick brush pile from a heap of downed trees.

Use some fox urine around your set, and by all means don't touch anything more then you absolutely HAVE to....and do it with gloved hands when ya do /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I saw a website one time that was selling live traps for fox and coyote. They recommended using hay bales stacked to make a cave with room for the trap to fit in. But they say don't put the trap in right away. They said to just throw meat scraps into the "cave" until the animal is taking them regularly and is used to getting food there, then put in the trap. Seemed like alot of work to me, when foot holds are so "easy".(comparitively that is)but if you want a live yote' it'd be worth a try.
 
I'm curious what one would do with a live, wild, adult coyote? Who is the brave soul that plans to remove it from the live trap once caught? THEN where do you plan to keep it? But the real question is why?
 
OK guys, here we go----
A two foot square by four foot long live trap with live rooster in the back is deadly on bobcat, but not too sucessful on coyotes. You don't want to live trap coyotes in summer with method I am going to reveal, because they are non-stop fighters and many will be dead when you check your traps because they get over heated and have heart attack or something. You also want to check the laws in your state concerning the sale of live coyotes. I could not find any legal way to do it in Iowa. Snares are best live catch method. You have to place a deer stop on your snare so that loop will not close any smaller than three inches. This will prevent most choke downs if you set your snares in area's free of brush or trees where they can entangle. Use five foot snares. You can set up the snares just like I described in earlier thread on snaring coyotes in CRP fields. Remember the pickup tracks and the large draw station? You can also set snares in their trails where they go under or through fences, but set back far enough from fence so that coyote does not get entangled in fence. You can also use padded jaw steel traps, but you will still get a few broken legs that way. People who buy live coyotes, demand coyotes that are free of foot damage.

How do you get a coyote out of a snare without killing it first? You will need a hog catcher type of rig, a snare on end of a pole like dog catchers use. You will need a roll of good duct tape, some gunny sacks and a whole lot of guts or very little common sense. A bit of both would help. You walk up to coyote that is caught in the snare, slip your hog catcher loop around coyote neck, press downward on pole as you work your way up to the struggling coyote. Once coyote is on the ground, run your open hand down his back, up over his head, on down his nose, and then clamp his mouth shut with one hand while you duct tape his mouth shut with the other hand. You then duct tape one front foot to one back foot so that coyote can't run away when you remove your snare. Now place coyote in gunny sack and tie the sack closed. The man who taught me this method gave the coyote shots for rabies, and a shot to calm him down. If you decide to try this, you will need a large holding pen made from hog panel, and you will have to keep your coyotes fed and watered until they are sold. Once again I must warn you to check your state laws before trying this.
 
NASA, the main reason for catching live coyotes is for selling them (or course lol) Your main buyers would be coyote or fox pen owners who are wanting game in thier running pens for hounds. This is getting to be more of a common thing now because with all the non-hunting crowd not liking hounds running across thier beloved "5 acres" More and more houndsman are running strickly field trials in fox/coyote pens. I am an outside hunter myself but do run in pens and trials... I hope this answers your question. MOyotehunter
 
I have only vaguely heard of the "running pens". I don't know anyone who does it, and have never seen it done. Is this done for dog training or for competition? Are there any videos out that document this activity. This is new to me and I'd like to know more about it. Thanks for the heads up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
NASA,
It is done for training of dogs. Texas and Oklahoma are a couple of states that come to mind in the live trapping market. At one time, I had quite a long list of names and phone numbers for buyers. That was a long time ago.
 
If there's anyone on the board that can put me in touch with someone doing this, please IM me. I would love to come watch this kind of action.
 
NASA:
This is my kind of territory now... lol Most of the running pens are used for training pups and younger hounds. Some times there are competions (field trials) where hounds gets points for hunting and chasing the game, and running the track correctly. For anyone who loves a good hound work, whether it be beagles, or coonhounds, or other fox/coyote hunters like myself, running in a pen is a very exciting expirince. Of course you don't want to kill the coyotes or fox because they do cost quite a bit of money. Most pens are around 80 acres, but can range from 10-over 900 acres. There are several in northern missouri here where I live, and one big pen near Ellsinore, MO of 640 acres.
Where are you located NASA? Maybe I could help you out a little, See ya MOyotehunter
 
MOyote- ditto!
edit: Hot diggity! Just hooked up with Vargy. Whoo Hoo! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
They say a man can't teach an old dog new tricks. But you just might be able to teach an old man some new tricks about dogs, LOL!
Looking forward to July. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
NASA,
Be sure to have Vargy take a photo of YOU taking a live coyote out of a snare and taping it's mouth shut. LOL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
HaHaHa, yeah I'll do that. But don't sell me TOO short, Richie 'ol boy. I'm no stranger to handling wild animals. I had to catch and subdue a 5' aligator, once. Handled lots of rattlers. Caught and hogtied a wild burro (without a rope). Wrestled an adult doe to the ground. Trapped and tagged tons of raptors from golden eagles down to kestrels. I even worked at a pet shop because I was the only one who could hand feed a 20' anaconda. Of course, I haven't done much of this recently.
But I don't think handling a terrified, pissed-off, wild eyed coyote should be too much of a challange, do you? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif :eek: /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
NASA,
I watched the late Wayne Soper wrestle a live coyote once. This was at night, in headlights of the pickup. I still ain't sure if old Wayne was brave, or just plain ole CRAZY. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
It is done for training of dogs. Texas and Oklahoma are a couple of states that come to mind in the live trapping market.
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Coyote and fox pens are used in Texas. However, it is currently illegal under Texas Department of Health regulations to transport live coyotes with in the state due to a rabies quarantine. It is still done, but it is against the law.

http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/regs/QUARANT/restrict.asp

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/wildlife_habitat/pdf_docs/pwd_br_W7000_065.pdf
 
i know a guy by the name of jan davis who wrestles these coyotes, needless to say he and any man who wrestles these things has more guts then i do.
 
Hi snakehollow joe. Trying to live trap coyotes in any kind of enclosed live trap such as a cage or similar device is going to be futile at best. If you did like the one fella above suggested and prebaited for awhile you might coax a dumb one in I guess. Don't expect quick results or high numbers though. Otherwise as a rule coyotes normally shy away from entering a confined space of that nature.

I have caught a few coyotes in bobcat cubbies but that is rare. And a bobcat cubby set is very open compared to any other enclosed live trap. Your best bet would be snares or footholds. They will be alive and well when you get there.

As far as dealing with the live coyote after the catch, it would be a simple matter of using a catch pole (preferably two guys with two poles) and then putting the coyote into a transport cage or enclosure to relocate.

Good luck
 


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