Long distance 6.5 coyote bullets

coyotekilla83

coyotekilla83

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So... ive done some medium and long range shooting and want to take a coyote in the 500 to 1,000 yard range. 99% of my coyote hunting is calling at night or 1's spotted at night harassing deer.

I have top notch 640 thermals with lrf & balistics that work well. Case and point, skunk at 360, possum at 435.

I have 2 tikka's that shoot well. A 6.5 creed upr & an ace 6.5 prc. Both are sub .5 moa with the prc about .25 moa.

Took a shot at 200, sounded good, dog ran off, tripple checked zero, gun was on. Took a shot last night at 220, dog ran 50 and fell over. Im thinking my 135 bergers arnt opening yet.



Anyone else popping them at distance with a 6.5?
 
I'm betting your going to be very very disappointed in this venture. Not sure what your setup is but if i was going to go down the rabbit hole or "ELR Coyote" I'd spin up a 25PRC and run 134ELDM but if you stay with what you have I'd try the 147s.

Honestly I think I'd rather have a NV setup over a thermal as well. Having a nice PVS30 and a great day scope that tracks dead on combined with a Kestrel for real-time data is really hard to beat for consistent and repeatable hits.
 
Kino M said:
If i was going to go down the rabbit hole or "ELR Coyote" I'd spin up a 25PRC
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No point in stopping at 25 Kino......

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Kino M said:
I bet its short lived but it'll be awesome while it last!! 109s at 3700ish, that would be sick!!
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I built two of them, had my fun, then sold them & the reamer.

It's basically a 6-284 in a different package, 105's at 3400 or so.

3700 you better have your bomb disposal suit on.....šŸ˜²šŸ˜²šŸ˜²
 
coyotekilla83 said:
6 prc might be an option. There are some nice 6mm varmit bullets. Need a larger than 2 sample size to tell for certain how these bergers behave. The recovered dog wasn't very big, and those have been most of my runners with other guns generally.
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To use a varmint bullet to expand like you're wanting, then the BC will suck for LR. You can dial for that, but good luck with the wind call.

Honestly, stick with the 135's till you get a few more under your belt, then decide.
 
I have great success with the Nosler 129gr ABLR (accubond long range) out of a 260R and 6.5 grl. Some complain about its accuracy, but I get great groups. It was designed to open at the reduced velocity you get at ā€œlong rangeā€. I love it for my Grendel since that weight bullet isnā€™t that fast in an grendel AR but it has a great BC and opens really well. Also being bonded it stays together well. It works very well on deer and I have shot coyotes with success. One with the 260 at about 400 yards out of a deer stand.
 
alf said:
I built two of them, had my fun, then sold them & the reamer.

It's basically a 6-284 in a different package, 105's at 3400 or so.

3700 you better have your bomb disposal suit on.....šŸ˜²šŸ˜²šŸ˜²
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Ok Iā€™ve been going back and forth on another hot rod 6mm. I was thinking about trying to get a 80 eldvt or 75 vmax scooting out of a 6PRC or possibly a 6UM. I was going to reach out to unknown munitions to see if they had any experience with the light bullets in their 6UM.

Dud you shoot any lighter bullets in that 6PRC?
 
Duhhh said:
Ok Iā€™ve been going back and forth on another hot rod 6mm. I was thinking about trying to get a 80 eldvt or 75 vmax scooting out of a 6PRC or possibly a 6UM....
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Just keep in mind that overspinning and blowing up bullets is a thing. I have a 7 twist 22 Creedmoor running 75 ELDMs at 3700 FPS. Those are fine for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if I start vaporizing them once the throat gets a little rough. An 8 twist would have been a better choice, that would drop my RPM by nearly 50,000.
 
SupressYourself said:
Just keep in mind that overspinning and blowing up bullets is a thing. I have a 7 twist 22 Creedmoor running 75 ELDMs at 3700 FPS. Those are fine for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if I start vaporizing them once the throat gets a little rough. An 8 twist would have been a better choice, that would drop my RPM by nearly 50,000.
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Yep. Thatā€™s why Iā€™d possibly be looking at a slower twist. Just not sure I could get away with it for the 80 VTs. Maybe the 75grainers.
 
Duhhh said:
Ok Iā€™ve been going back and forth on another hot rod 6mm. I was thinking about trying to get a 80 eldvt or 75 vmax scooting out of a 6PRC or possibly a 6UM. I was going to reach out to unknown munitions to see if they had any experience with the light bullets in their 6UM.

Dud you shoot any lighter bullets in that 6PRC?
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I did not, my reamer was made for the 105 Bergers.
 
coyotekilla83 said:
Took a shot at 200, sounded good, dog ran off, tripple checked zero, gun was on. Took a shot last night at 220, dog ran 50 and fell over. Im thinking my 135 bergers arnt opening yet.
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I really don't have anything to add to the op's question / remarks. But me doing light weight's in the CM this post has my interest (for 400 and less, longer range I would want the heavier 140ish gr bullets) . So, was the yote shot with the PRC or the CM or one yote each with the combination of each?

If one yote was shot with the CM , then the other with a PRC. It could be bullet construction, with the 135gr Bergers, as between the two cartridges there should be a velocity difference with the same bullet. But that is just a guess, wondering if say a Seirra, Nosler, or something else that shot the same in his gun would perform better. Although the other suggestions do sound to be a quick solution, and possibly less work up.
I'll just have to see where the Op lands on this one.
Just watching this one with interest.
 
Sgt_Mike said:
I really don't have anything to add to the op's question / remarks. But me doing light weight's in the CM this post has my interest (for 400 and less, longer range I would want the heavier 140ish gr bullets) . So, was the yote shot with the PRC or the CM or one yote each with the combination of each?

If one yote was shot with the CM , then the other with a PRC. It could be bullet construction, with the 135gr Bergers, as between the two cartridges there should be a velocity difference with the same bullet. But that is just a guess, wondering if say a Seirra, Nosler, or something else that shot the same in his gun would perform better. Although the other suggestions do sound to be a quick solution, and possibly less work up.
I'll just have to see where the Op lands on this one.
Just watching this one with interest.
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During load development, I stumbled into a .2 group with the prc. It's not speedy, 2750 to be exact, but it's predictably tiny. 56.7gr of retumbo and a 135 berger. The coyotes were both shot at with the same load, no recovery on first, possibly a miss due to high goldenrod. Recovered dog ran more than I'd like them to. But they're was lung tissue external on inspection.
 
coyotekilla83 said:
Just tried some 140 eldm's on paper, my berger load is a slow 1, these 140's show promise
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That is a slow poke speed out of a PRC, I ran mine with the 140 Bergers at 3100 in a 24" tube.

You need to step on the gas.

Even my little 6.5x47 throws the 130 Bergers at 2820 in a 23" tube
 
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