So I’ve been playing around with finding a load/bullet combination for my bergara hmr for a few years now. I’ve used H4350 with 140 amax/eldm and found good accuracy but couldn’t reach a decent velocity, I found similar results with 142 smk. Next I tried rl-16 with the eldm and got the velocity I was after and decent accuracy. Now I’m wanting a different bullet to play around with, I only casually shoot steel out to 1000 yards and just like tinkering around with load development. Taking the current bullet shortage out of the equation, what bullet/weight would you play around with? I’m not wanting the most expensive bullets or the cheapest option either.
Looking for a new 6.5 creed bullet
- Thread starter kooman
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I've had the 140 gr Bergers also shoot well in my 6.5 creedmoor. My muzzle velocity with my load is less than 2800 fps with a 20" barrel. You will never get impressive velocities from a 6.5 Creedmoor. If you want higher velocities, buying a 6.5 PRC or other caliber that allows more powder at reasonable pressures.
Originally Posted By: BrianIDI've had the 140 gr Bergers also shoot well in my 6.5 creedmoor. My muzzle velocity with my load is less than 2800 fps with a 20" barrel. You will never get impressive velocities from a 6.5 Creedmoor. If you want higher velocities, buying a 6.5 PRC or other caliber that allows more powder at reasonable pressures.
I couldn’t get above 2650 before pressure sign with the 140 eld/amax and h4350, 2 types of brass with the same results, my rL-16 load gets me 2780 which is fast enough for me. Maybe my rifle doesn’t like h4350, I was just looking for another bullet to try once things start showing up again
I couldn’t get above 2650 before pressure sign with the 140 eld/amax and h4350, 2 types of brass with the same results, my rL-16 load gets me 2780 which is fast enough for me. Maybe my rifle doesn’t like h4350, I was just looking for another bullet to try once things start showing up again
Rhett Steele
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I get good accuracy with rl16 and 140 eldm. The eldm is something i see in stock more than any other pill.
fishballer06
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Originally Posted By: Rhett SteeleI get good accuracy with rl16 and 140 eldm. The eldm is something i see in stock more than any other pill.
The 140's yes. Sadly, my gun really prefers the 147's and they've been MIA for quite some time now
The 140's yes. Sadly, my gun really prefers the 147's and they've been MIA for quite some time now
Originally Posted By: fishballer06Originally Posted By: Rhett SteeleI get good accuracy with rl16 and 140 eldm. The eldm is something i see in stock more than any other pill.
The 140's yes. Sadly, my gun really prefers the 147's and they've been MIA for quite some time now
Are you looking for some Hornady 147gr ELD-M ?? If so PM me I know a place that has quite a few boxes of them in stock $39.90 per box.
The 140's yes. Sadly, my gun really prefers the 147's and they've been MIA for quite some time now
Are you looking for some Hornady 147gr ELD-M ?? If so PM me I know a place that has quite a few boxes of them in stock $39.90 per box.
Originally Posted By: koomanI couldn’t get above 2650 before pressure sign with the 140 eld/amax and h4350, 2 types of brass with the same results, my rL-16 load gets me 2780 which is fast enough for me. Maybe my rifle doesn’t like h4350, I was just looking for another bullet to try once things start showing up again
I've been using superformance and Nosler brass to push the 140gr bergers. I do have some h4350 that I may try. I would like to try some RL16 but haven't seen any on the available to buy in over 2 years. It is kind of sad when you just have to use what you can find.
I'm surprised you didn't hit at least 2700 before seeing pressure signs. What barrel length do you have?
I've been using superformance and Nosler brass to push the 140gr bergers. I do have some h4350 that I may try. I would like to try some RL16 but haven't seen any on the available to buy in over 2 years. It is kind of sad when you just have to use what you can find.
I'm surprised you didn't hit at least 2700 before seeing pressure signs. What barrel length do you have?
todbartell
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Barnes 140gr Match Burner are a great choice. Very accurate, and decent BC. You can get them in 500 count boxes too which is nice
RL16 is a great Creed powder for getting a bit more velocity than you'll see from H4350. Another one to look at is Winchester's StaBALL 6.5
RL16 is a great Creed powder for getting a bit more velocity than you'll see from H4350. Another one to look at is Winchester's StaBALL 6.5
todbartell
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As you can see, H4350 is at the bottom of the list for velocity for max pressure
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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 140, Hornady ELD-M 26331
Useable Case Capaci: 47.532 grain H2O = 3.086 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
109 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 100.6 47.4 3.07 2911 100.0 62000 10603 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 101.4 46.4 3.00 2876 99.6 62000 10728 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 103.2 46.2 2.99 2859 97.1 62000 10904 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 101.9 45.8 2.97 2845 97.5 62000 10544 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 103.4 48.2 3.12 2844 95.6 62000 10930 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 103.3 45.8 2.97 2839 98.7 62000 10529 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 90.7 41.7 2.70 2825 100.0 62000 9399 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 103.3 49.3 3.19 2822 99.1 62000 10093 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 96.8 41.3 2.68 2794 100.0 62000 9260 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 100.0 43.8 2.84 2792 98.5 62000 10015 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 95.4 43.1 2.80 2789 99.8 62000 9714 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 104.0 44.6 2.89 2784 100.0 58905 9435 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 90.1 41.7 2.70 2782 99.5 62000 9720 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 90.1 41.7 2.70 2782 99.5 62000 9720 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 92.1 41.2 2.67 2769 100.0 62000 9404 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 101.3 44.9 2.91 2764 96.6 62000 9841 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 99.4 41.7 2.70 2750 100.0 62000 9059 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 104.0 44.3 2.87 2748 96.3 55989 10226 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 104.0 45.3 2.94 2747 99.8 53279 10092 1.221
Ramshot Big Game 85.8 40.0 2.59 2744 100.0 62000 8816 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 80.9 39.5 2.56 2743 100.0 62000 8786 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 85.6 37.5 2.43 2738 100.0 62000 8834 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 86.5 37.9 2.46 2732 100.0 62000 8823 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 97.3 41.2 2.67 2732 100.0 62000 8510 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 97.5 41.8 2.71 2730 99.1 62000 9233 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 95.7 41.7 2.70 2729 99.2 62000 9215 1.192 ! Near Maximum !