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Not trying to embarrass you or anything, but the whole part of your post directed towards stabilizers is wrong. All stabilizers will help to a certain extent, but a longer heavier stabilizer WILL DECREASE HAND TORQUE...which in turn will make you a more accurate shooter.



No embarrassment at all, but I never said a stabalizer didnt help with accuracy but they dont help much, espically if your using it for hunting.

I believe that Jackindistress had a good comment about for. Form and grip are more important then a stabalizer, bc if you dont a have the proper grip then you will never be consistent.
BUT yes a stabilizer does help more or less with certain people every person has a different bow and a different way of holding and shooting it. So that person must find what works for him. Thanks for the reply.
 
Originally Posted By: SnipercoyoteMy current set up is pretty accurate, I'm just a picky shooter and I want to be even more accurate. 30yds and in im shooting pretty tight groups its once I get out to 40, 50 yds I notice a drop off. I've heard this could be because of the biscuit. We will find out soon got the QAD rest in the mail today.

When you get your new rest on, try doing a walk back tune after you set your initial center shot and nock point and see if that helps your groups.

I have seen guys complain that they have perfect arrow flight but don't have good groups at longer ranges. They may believe they have perfect arrow flight because they paper tuned the bow and had a clean tear through paper. Paper tuning can get you close but for the best groups possible you need to do a walk back tune.

Just google walk back tune to see instructions on how to do this if you do not already know. The important thing to do is have your target at shoulder height, start at about 6 feet from the target and work your way back to 50 or 60 yards, (using the same pin). You want to end up with your arrows following the vertical line. Adjust your arrow rest in VERY small amounts to bring the arrows all in line, left & right.

Once you have completed this, go back and dial in each pin on your sight to set the vertical impact point of your arrow. Your broadheads should now shoot very close to the same point as your field points.
 
Originally Posted By: JackindistressOriginally Posted By: SnipercoyoteMy current set up is pretty accurate, I'm just a picky shooter and I want to be even more accurate. 30yds and in im shooting pretty tight groups its once I get out to 40, 50 yds I notice a drop off. I've heard this could be because of the biscuit. We will find out soon got the QAD rest in the mail today.

When you get your new rest on, try doing a walk back tune after you set your initial center shot and nock point and see if that helps your groups.






x2 I dont even papertune my bows anymore just set my nock point, center shot, and make sure my rest is clearing. Then I walk back tune with broadheads sight in and your good to go. Takes alot of the head ache away.
 
The added weight of a stabilizer will help in windy conditions, as would taking off your quiver if you have one - one's an anchor the other is a sail
 
Originally Posted By: kecI worked in my friends pro archery shop for a number of years. Your equipment will get you to a certain point of accuracy...But your FORM will take you the rest of the way.

Those with good form have better accuracy through consistancy. I've known and seen shooters who can pick up there bow after its sat for months and just shoot bulls all day long because they have perfect FORM.

You really need someone to watch you or video yourself shooting so that your form deficiencies (if any) can be corrected. It's hard to see what your doing wrong when shooting alone.

Kevin

Kevin is correct on this. The biggest problem I've seen with some people is not using the the same anchor point consistently. Some people use kisser buttons to help with this.
 
For the most part a short stabilizer won't help much.For years folks tried all they could to reduce arrow/rest contact for better accuracy/arrow flight.For those reasons the whole concept of the WB never made sense to me.I use QAD.
 
every shooter is different and we all have our own demons. I can shoot a wb just fine out to 100yds. Its all in the setup of the bow. As long as your spine, centershot and front hand technique are correct I dont care what rest it is, it will shoot. I Like the wb and also have a spot hogg whammy and love them both. I dont think the qad can hurt at all, but dont expect to shoot 12s all day long just because of that
 
A drop away may be forgiving in not adding any further shooter input to the arrow after immediate launch, but most drop aways are picky as heck on arrow spine.

My Ripcord worked great but offered no dampening.

My Hoyt Protec shot bullet holes with a cheap GK Huntmaster 2000 and the guys at the shop all laughed at my then high dollar rig and cheap rest. Deer died, and foam was nuked.

Worked perfect.

But I had too much of the talk and went with a Ripcord.

Broadheads no longer shot with my fieldpoints??????

See...........I don't care for string loops, like my release along my jaw low, same darn anchor for 25+yrs.

Really like eliminator buttons and on a 27" A2A bow it worked. But I had some flex due to stress on shaft at full draw. No prob, the Huntmaster 200 had vertical and horizontal dampening and negated any bad effects.

Going to Ripcord with no dampening, and some full draw arrow stress.............meant vertical diff on BH vs FP.
No amount of tuning would negate the impact difference.

Put on a string loop, changed draw length (yay Cam and 1/2)
and it put them both right on the mark again, paper tune showed bullet holes.

Ran that for 3 yrs and went back to recurve.

Still don't care for bows under 35" A2A, more than 65% letoff, and don't like string loops.

On accuracy, the type of peep, orifice size and type of front sight/pin size and orientation can be big factors.

I dislike vertical pins, grew up shooting side pins. Glow pins close together on fast bows can make for short focus. Side single pin on a mover sight, like an HHA worked great for me. Think I ran .019" pin. Yanked the original vert pin and swapped in a Viper front sight piece.

Best sight I ever ran. Loved it. Kid that got my Mathews loves it too. Indoors or afield.

Super Hunter Fletcher peep worked great hunting to 30 yards but was too big for me shooting foam at 40 and farther. Next size down was better for targets (for me).
 
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Form is the key..Being Repetitive..Build shooting muscles..
Make sure your bow is squared and set up properly..
All of these guys are correct, but nothing can help more
than practice...Myself I use a 12inch Cartel Stabilizer, not much added weight at all, just a little forward weight...
 
Snipercoyote...did the rest help ? I have been looking on here for awhile to see a new post from you...Personally the Whisker Bisquit has been the best rest for me I get great accuracy from my bow with feild points or broadheads , I use the Rage 2 blade broadheads , 70 pound pull 65 percent let off and Beman MFX Micro Diameter 400 9.6 gpi arrows , wouldn't trade my rig for anything less than a Mathews DXT !!! IT HAS BEEN THE ONLY BOW THAT HAS OUT PREFORMED MINE SO FAR !!! And he shoots a whisker biscuit too.
 
a problem alot of people have when they have accuracy issues is not proper spine of arrow and or paper tuning!. bullet holes make a world of difference, i had this problem last year!.

there is always form too! he11 if you grip your bow too tightly when taking a shot it can throw very serious accuracy issues.
 
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"Wildarcher" I have noticed a huge difference in accuracy and consistency. I have expanded my range by 30yds atleast. What I mean by that is this past fall I would not shoot at a deer that was further then 30yds. because of me not being able to shoot very accurate past that yardage, inside 30 I was fine. Now fast forward to after I replaced the WB with the QAD ultra rest I am shooting very accurate out to 60yds and doing it consistent. Now keep in mind I am not bashing the WB I know a lot of hunters use it and they can shoot far better then I can, just for my particular bow I could not shoot well with it for whatever reason. It could be also that I was a beginner to bowhunting a year ago and with practice I've also gotten better. All in all I love the new rest and I can tell a difference in speed as well, just seems to put a little more thud on the target.
 
I also shoot the rage 2, I love how they are dead on with my field points. Been thinking about trying the slick tricks have heard good things about them. A lot of people bash the rage's and its got me thinking. I personally havent had any trouble with them but have only killed one deer with the Rage's and they performed very well. Just would hate to have one fail on me whether its a doe or a trouphy buck.
 
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My honest opinion is that a stabilizer hardly helps at all. The key to shooting a bow is being relaxed and holding your bow steady on your target, not having a 4" to 30" stabilizer sticking out the front of your bow.
 
Good lord has modern archery gone this crazy. This is why I switched to traditional gear 15 Plus years ago Keep it simple, gadgets will fail you and cost you dearly.
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I agree on my particular bow with it having a short axle to axle length the addition of the stabilizer did nothing for ME and my setup to help with accuracy.
 
Are we talking a target bow or hunting bow? Hunting bows are better off without the extra weight and gadgets. Proper spine and arrow balancing are key . In my opinion being accurate out to 30 maybe 40 yds is all you need. I have killed most of my deer under 20 yards. but I hunt funnels and thicker areas with my recurve. Deer will jump the string at longer distances. They will drop half their body height in a split second. Target shooting and real time hunting shots are totally different. In my opinion.

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The best thing you can do to improve your accuracy after replacing the whisker biscuit, selecting the proper arrows and tuning your bow, is to shoot blue face on a regular basis and keep score.. Better yet find a competive league and join up..
 


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