Lost mate howl?

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wapiti6x6

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I have recently killed one of a pair of responding coyotes on three different occasions and within minutes the coyote that escaped let out a single howl that is shorter than an interrogation/invitation but longer than the challenge/warning and had very little change in tone or inflection, kind of deeper than most howls. Twice the male met his maker and once the female, I presume the exiting coyote was of the opposite sex but could not be certain. Anybody else experienced this?
 
That would be a standard assembly howl. With individual modifications it will sound a little different from different coyotes. It is issued by a coyote to another coyote or other coyotes to have it or them join with it. You can understand how it can pick up the "lost mate" tag within the context you describe.
 
There is a lost mate call.

I have heard it with two coyotes, sometimes for several days after I have shot it's mate.

And, I have seen it described by Major Boddicker's book that came with my Song Dog call.

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A coyote can probably recognize the voice of it's own mate, so trying to reproduce it with a mouth blown howler wouldn't cut it. Just use a lonesome sounding howl. A lonesome sounding howl with no barks is non agressive in nature, and tells other coyotes that there is a lonely stranger in the area.
 
Rob, your reply surprises me a little. You've always been willing to discuss anything coyote with intelligence. I wasn't being pissy, my question was sincere. If you are convinced that there is a difference between the two howls and know what that difference is then I am asking you to share with me.
 
I have heard a similar howl. This was in early Dec. I was set up and had three yotes coming in but one of them stayed high up on a ridge in the rocks. The other two came to within two hundred yards and just sat there. After I shot the first one the other ran to about 300 to 350 yards before I could get it to stop. Imediatly after I missed the third yote, the one up on the ridge let out a howl just like wapiti6x6 described. After the two more howls from the yote on the ridge I watched the two yotes meet up and run away together. The next weekend I went back to the same spot and set up about 50 yards from where I did before. It wasn't long and I had two yotes coming. Once again one of them stayed up high on the ridge and the other was coming right for me and wasn't stoping. At about 50 to 75 yards I had no choice but to shoot and after I dropped the yote, the one on the ridge started to howl. It must have howled 7 or 8 times before leaving by itself. Both yotes I did shoot were males.
 
triple_deuce,
I once had a pair of coyotes come bouncing in to my call. I killed the male. The female stood out of sight in the brush and gave out two or three very mournful and low volume sounding howls. If there is any sound that could ever be labeled as a "lost mate" howl, that would be the one. The closest a man can ever come to reproducing that sound with a mouth blown howler, is simply to make the most mournful sounding howl that you can imagine. What I call a "lonesome" howl will have to serve the purpose for me.
 
Rich and Rich, I shot a male here in S. Missouri in early November and had a similar incident. I shot him and he ran about 75 yards along the edge of the timber before piling up. Within 45 seconds or so another coyote about 60-80 yards down in the timber let out two howls. The howls were very mournful sounding, but somewhat shorter than what is normally termed a lonesome howl. I thought it was the wierdest howl I'd ever heard. No barks with it either. Thanks, Todd.
 
Baldknobber,
The mournful howls I heard that day were in fact shorter in length. I didn't really pick up on that fact until you just now mentioned it. A short "lonesome" howl would do the trick for certain.
 
Todd and Rich, that is the point that I tried to make. An assembly howl or any name you wish to apply to a howl which a coyote uses to call another or other coyotes to it's location is short in duration and does not trail off in a descending note. These coyotes are probably not mourning the death of a mate, most of the time the coyote that was shot is carried away by the caller and the coyote issuing the howl doesn't have a clue what happened to it. The coyote is simply calling it's mate or fellow group member to it's location.
Ergo, rally howl, lost mate howl, assembly howl or any other tag you wish to apply to identify that particular type of lonehowl, all describe the same howl which is used for the same purpose.
 
Ive heard what I interrupt to be a "thank gawd the [beeep] is gone howl" higher pitched than the lost mate, a bit more enthusiasim in projection. I shot one of a pair, the [beeep],and the male gleefully issued this particular yip/howl.....what do you think it meant, this is fascinating stuff interrupting and naming these barks and yips coyotes emit!!!!
 
"to apply to a howl which a coyote uses to call another or other coyotes to it's location is short in duration and does not trail off in a descending note."
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Good tip Rich Higgins! You might just have something there.
 
Rich, it isn't a tip, it's actually a caution. These rally/assembly/lost mate howls are similar to a warning howl. I have never been able to entice a coyote into the stand after any coyote in the area issued a warning howl. They are close enough that I would never try one in order to bring a coyote in. Of course as you know no one can fool a coyote into thinking that they are member of that coyotes pack or family. The best we can hope to do is convince the coyotes that we a re a strange coyote at that particular place at that particular time and as you have preached for years a long high pitched lone howl does that best.
 
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