Originally Posted By: bracerI m a 17 caliber fan. I use 17 HM2, 17 HMR RF, 17 Fireball, 17 Rem and will have a 17 Hornet CF within a few weeks. I got my first rifle in 1949 and over the years I have found to not purchase low end $$ firearms. I wait until I save up $$ to get the better quality most of which has increased in value. When target shooting its not much fun shooting an inaccurate rifle. agree! they last a long , long time. also for me the rifle is the least expensive part of the hunt. comparesd to gas, tags , vehicles, boots , snowshoes, calls ect. if you ever want to sell you get 90 to 100 % back. the rest is just sunk cost.