Making a barrel longer

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Probably should take your happy pill for the morning.


Guess you wern't paying attention /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif You take the happy pill before bed time to make the barrel longer, remember /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Thank you very much for the sound advice and information Gentelmen /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif That's the information I expected from this group /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Being laughed at on a forum is better that to you're face at a gun shop /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif Thanks Bob /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

I just thought that by adding a length of a couple of inches to my 16" 17Remington barrelled upper would be an easier way to up the pressure and get the faster powders with the better groups in my test rounds to also cycle the action..
OK I know the problem is the fact that the upper has a rifle length gas tube starting at about 3" from the muzzle and is the real reason the faster powders won't cycle and make the more accurate rounds the rounds of choice.
Rather than redrilling and putting on a shorter gas tube etc, just thought I'd check to see if my idea would work.
Seems it would, it's getting someone to do it for me is the problem. So i guess it's back to the 1"+ groups and an opperable semi auto as opposed to a more accurate one that could be adjusted by adding and subtracting lengths. Much like the adjustable gas block thingy..
Oh well I'm about tired of the copper magnet anyway since it wont shoot the 30 grain bullets consistently. Thought it might be the barrel length.
And no the barrel will not get longer even though the stuff coming out of the short one is blue /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
Have a good day!

Later
DF2
 
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Thank you very much for the sound advice and information Gentelmen /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif That's the information I expected from this group /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Being laughed at on a forum is better that to you're face at a gun shop /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif Thanks Bob /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

I just thought that by adding a length of a couple of inches to my 16" 17Remington barrelled upper would be an easier way to up the pressure and get the faster powders with the better groups in my test rounds to also cycle the action..
OK I know the problem is the fact that the upper has a rifle length gas tube starting at about 3" from the muzzle and is the real reason the faster powders won't cycle and make the more accurate rounds the rounds of choice.
Rather than redrilling and putting on a shorter gas tube etc, just thought I'd check to see if my idea would work.
Seems it would, it's getting someone to do it for me is the problem. So i guess it's back to the 1"+ groups and an opperable semi auto as opposed to a more accurate one that could be adjusted by adding and subtracting lengths. Much like the adjustable gas block thingy..
Oh well I'm about tired of the copper magnet anyway since it wont shoot the 30 grain bullets consistently. Thought it might be the barrel length.
And no the barrel will not get longer even though the stuff coming out of the short one is blue /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
Have a good day!

Later
DF2



DF2...

Now that you confirmed the operating platform, there are a couple other things you can try to rid yourself of the failure to cycle...

First, try a lighter buffer or even removing a weight or two from your existing buffer. It's an easy procedure of just driving out the roll pin holding the plastic end on the tube and reinstalling after you removed a little weight. This is easily reversable. On that same note, if your current set up uses a standard rifle buffer, there is a kit available that converts your buffer system to a lighter weight carbine system with the use of a spacer, new spring and a carbine buffer. I know some folks shooting slow, sub sonic .223 loads have reported very good results with this kit.

Your other option is to slightly enlarge the gas port on the barrel. This should be done very carefully and in very small steps. Being a more permanent procedure, this should be done only if you understand this barrel will be a bit "picky" on the loads you put through it. "Over gassing" the action is not something you really want to do.

Hope this helps a bit....
 
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I guess since there are so many CLOWNS out ther wanting to add to their post counts with no real attempt to answer a legitimate question, maybe I should explain why and to what end the question was intended. THEN AGAIN MAYBE NOT /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Blinddog, Thank you, you have the intent and solution to my question, now I need an answer as to real life experience. THAT IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND..I now have a 5" flash hider on a 16" AR barrel, so I know how and what they are for but thanks anyway for coming as close as you did with a solution.
Everyones concerns with what I do with my money on my weapons was really heart /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gifwarming, But was that really part of the question /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif Untill I hear from a legitimate source or someone with experience as was requested, I'll not go into farther details... BAH! HUMMBUG!!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif FLAME AWAY /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

DF2



I'm almost positive no one ment any harm in their responses to your question. It just seemed like an unrealistic idea to begin with. If you would have posted something like "AR won't cycle on low presure reloads. What can I do?" then you probably would have gotten a better response. Adding barrel length is like moving your house from California to Maine. Just not cost effective nor logical. No one called you any names or anything, just had a little fun.
 
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I'm almost positive no one ment any harm in their responses to your question.



You are correct in that no harm was ever intended but lets all be honest here, when a guy named Droopy starts asking about adding a couple of inches to his "barrel" the end result is obvious. Ray Charles could see it coming. Come on, were only human here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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I guess since there are so many CLOWNS out ther wanting to add to their post counts with no real attempt to answer a legitimate question, maybe I should explain why and to what end the question was intended. THEN AGAIN MAYBE NOT /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Blinddog, Thank you, you have the intent and solution to my question, now I need an answer as to real life experience. THAT IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND..I now have a 5" flash hider on a 16" AR barrel, so I know how and what they are for but thanks anyway for coming as close as you did with a solution.
Everyones concerns with what I do with my money on my weapons was really heart /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gifwarming, But was that really part of the question /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif Untill I hear from a legitimate source or someone with experience as was requested, I'll not go into farther details... BAH! HUMMBUG!!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif FLAME AWAY /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

DF2



You have to remember, many of us have had years of experience with firearms, and some have had extensive experience working on their own guns or the guns of others. So, when someone comes on the forum and asks the kind of question you did, it's very, very hard to take such a question seriously and not joke about it

You have heard the line "There are no stupid questions" ..... well, yes there are. But, fortunately, your question came not out of stupidity, but from inexperience with this sort of thing and, like the rest of us, you will learn. In the meantime, you will have to forgive a few of us for having taken advantage of the opportunity for attempting a humorous response. I am just glad there was no internet years ago when I was considering such questions. LOL

And, in answer to your intial question ..... there was an outfit years ago which took a standard high powered rifle, cut it's barrel down in length, threaded the end of the barrel and you could put unrifled barrel stubs of different lengths on the end. The idea was that the unrifled sections were slightly over groove ID, and provided some gas sealing effects, without the added friction of the rifling, producing higher velocities than were attainable by a fully rifled barrel of the same length.

I believe the claims of higher velocity were proven to be unfounded and there was a problem with the threaded section loosening and changing bullet point of impact during a shooting session.

I haven't seen an ad for that system in years.
 
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when someone comes on the forum and asks the kind of question you did, it's very, very hard to take such a question seriously and not joke about it

You have heard the line "There are no stupid questions" ..... well, yes there are. But, fortunately, your question came not out of stupidity, but from inexperience with this sort of thing and, like the rest of us, you will learn. In the meantime, you will have to forgive a few of us for having taken advantage of the opportunity for attempting a humorous response. I am just glad there was no internet years ago when I was considering such questions. LOL

And, in answer to your intial question ..... there was an outfit years ago which took a standard high powered rifle, cut it's barrel down in length, threaded the end of the barrel and you could put unrifled barrel stubs of different lengths on the end. The idea was that the unrifled sections were slightly over groove ID, and provided some gas sealing effects, without the added friction of the rifling, producing higher velocities than were attainable by a fully rifled barrel of the same length.

I believe the claims of higher velocity were proven to be unfounded and there was a problem with the threaded section loosening and changing bullet point of impact during a shooting session.

I haven't seen an ad for that system in years.



I fail to see how a question can be considered on the verg of stupid or from the lack of experience when you go on and post about a company that tried to sell an identical item i was inquireing about.
Better answer is the expense part. Since I'm not a machinest or a gun smith, how the heck am I supposed to know all your little inside jokes.. Others say it's doable just not cost efficetive. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT!!
The only stupid question is the one not asked in my opinion. It's not like it was covered just last week or even last month, Thank you!!!

To every one, THANKS FOR THE INPUT- ANSWERS - AND JOKES..We are all human aren't we. I ment no disrespect and pretty well knew non of you did either. Just frustrated with what I considered non answers to a viable question, reguardless what rifle it was being done to...

I'll take some suggestions into consideration and continue on my merry way. None the worst for wear. If I ever go through a day without learning something new reguardless how mundane some may find it, Guess I'll be DEAD!!!! Next time I need advice, guess what????
I'll seek it here first, stupid question or not /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif

Later
DF2
 


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