Mounting a scope to a flat type AR-15 upper??

Troy R. Plambeck

Troy R. Plambeck

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I will be mounting a 1" scope to my AR-15 flat top upper....I am confused as to what scope rings I need. Will I need a "high" ring, med ring, etc? Any suggestions? Is steel the way to go? Is aluminum bad?

Troy
 
The ring height will be determined by the size of the optic (3-9x40, 40 being the optic size) the brand of scope, brand of ring and brand of mount, along with were you are mounting it on the flat top.
 
Go to Wally World and get a set of Leupold Rifleman see-thru mounts for a Weaver base. They run about $17 and will put the scope at the right level for shooting. I've got a 3-9x40 on my flat top and there's room for a bigger, ie. 44mm, objective scope. You can remove the scope from the rifle and re-install it w/out rezeroing it. MI VHNTR
 
Why some guys try to cheapen their weapons with 17 dollar junk from wallyworld after spending serious money on a decent gun never ceases to amaze me?????????

Buy good equipment once instead of junk two or three times.

Read my sig line, you'll get it sooner or later.
 
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I use the $17 junk and it works excelent for me and yes the see thru mounts are the cats a$$ get the ones that are canted (leaning) for a little extra eye releaf.
 
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Why some guys try to cheapen their weapons with 17 dollar junk from wallyworld after spending serious money on a decent gun never ceases to amaze me?????????

Buy good equipment once instead of junk two or three times.

Read my sig line, you'll get it sooner or later.


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After reading your post, I don't think that it'd take too much to amaze you. Leupold products are junk? I don't think that too many people will agree with your expert evaluation of Leupold products.
Perhaps you figure that because you paid more for something that it is better than anything costing less money. That's laughable at best. As for your sig line, these two sayings come to mind: a fool and his money are soon parted and there's a sucker born every minute. MI VHNTR

 
MIVHNTR,
You are right, I gave 25 dollars for a set of Warne super high rings to go on top of my AR.
What a waste of money.
I'll throw them away and the scope too.
It's not Leupold.
Anybody got an old papertowel roll and some string and duct tape I can buy cheap.


I'll pay more money for better equipment rather than cheap and replacing it a few times.

Keep studying, you'll figure it out.
 
clayman90, to start off, Warne makes a very nice product. I've used their products for years. That being said, for some childish reason, you feel that the whole $8 difference that you spent for the Warne rings makes your purchase superior to the less costly Leupold mounts. If it makes you feel superior, so be it. However, it sure sounds like you're a "tactical" label ***** though. I sure as He** don't need an "expert" like you to tell me how to outfit my weapons. I'll bet that you play mall ninja when you use an AR too.
One more thing, I don't need to study anything. I got my college degree years ago. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif MI VHNTR
 
What Clayman said!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif


Rifleman seies mounts are JUNK just like the Rifleman scopes. One day some may see the light. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
MI VHNTR,
I don't feel that the $8 difference in those rings make them superior to the Leupold Rifleman series. The materials and durability built into the Warne ring do.
Money is not the object of this discussion in my view.
Just because one item costs more than a similar item does not make it superior. Materials and workmanship makes it superior.
I never claimed to be an "expert". Was trying to keep a guy from spending his money on equipment inferior to other similarly priced equipment and then have to replace the junk later.
If the Leupold Rifleman see-thru rings cost 50 bucks they are still inferior to most rings.

Tactical bullsh** means nothing to me. Products that work for me day in and day out do.

I don't even know what a "mall ninja" is.

My Ar is a pieced together piece of junk I'm sure.
Olympic Arms SUM 20in complete upper, Superior Arms stripped lower, Chip McCormick Single Stage Match Trigger with KNS AntiRotational pins, and a RR lower parts kit, of course I put it together to save money and get exactly what I wanted and then topped it with a Burris 4.5X14x42 FFII with BPlex.

Is that standard "mall ninja" equipment"?

Let me know so I can find a mall, because I think the nearest one is about 70 miles away. I hope they will let me in. I haven't been in a mall that I can think of in about 3 years and that was shopping for Christmas with my wife.

Don't resort to sh**slinging and name calling because you don't like what I said about a product that you happen to like.
Free speech is just that.
Get over it.

Clayman
 
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PUFF, PUFF, PASS boys, they are scope rings. Yea some are better than others I have used many and some have been good and some acceptable none junk, if it is on a lite cal .243 and under I seirously dont think they will shake apart or make a big differance we are shooting coyotes not championship 1000m matches. I have a 2-7 Nikon on my AR not a Swarski or Zeiss yea they are a better product but the Nikon is what I can afford and will do fine. My point is use what you have or can afford and life will be good. If it makes YOU happy that is all that matters.
 
is the soap opera over now ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif



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You need to get a ring and mount height that will fit your face. (natural cheek weld) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

You should be able to put the rifle and scope up to your shoulder with your eyes closed, and when you open your eye(s) you should be looking thru the scope almost perfectly and comfortably. No readjusting your cheek or rubbernecking required.

For me, to get a proper alignment on an AR, I use a base and xtra-high rings.

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clayman say: MI VHNTR,
Don't resort to sh**slinging and name calling because you don't like what I said about a product that you happen to like.
Free speech is just that.
Get over it.
Clayman
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Why some guys try to cheapen their weapons with 17 dollar junk from wallyworld after spending serious money on a decent gun never ceases to amaze me?????????
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Read my sig line, you'll get it sooner or later.
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Keep studying, you'll figure it out.


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Hey, if you don't like a product, you don't have to attempt to insult someone for using, or looking at using, the product that an expert like you deems unfit for their personal use. Not everyone is as adept as you are while choosing firearms/optics/mounts. Yup, free speech is one thing, but if you look hard enough, perhaps even you'll see that YOU started with the s*** slinging. You see, I DID figure it out and I responded in like fashion. As far as ARs go, I guess that I'd have to get rid of my Colt pre-ban Match HBAR to be able to get a rifle, or two or three, just like yours. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif MI VHNTR
 
Oh ya, well I can pee further than both of ya. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


sorry guys I couldn't resist. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
Come on guys, the original poster asked a serious question. One guy gave his opinion as to what he uses on his Rifle and another guy attacked his choice.

Well guys we all live in America (at least I think so) and the last time I checked America was still a free country. This peeing contest you guys have entered into has done nothing to help out the original poster.

On a different note I am considering purchasing my first AR Rifle and Scope Mounts is one of the considerations. A buddy has a Armalite M-15A4 with the Armalite Scope Mount that comes with the Rifle. When I shoulder this Armalite the Scope is EXACTLY the right height above the comb of the stock. With this mount his Rifle FITS me perfectly.

Now the Armalite One Piece Scope Mount is a little spendy for my tastes, but I have yet to come up with another mount that will position the scope in exactly this same position above the comb of the stock. Some advertise theirs as putting the scope at the same height as the open sights on an A2 (what ever that dimension is). I have looked at Riser Bases and Standard Rings etc. and for someone that knows nothing about AR's this is indeed confusing.

Can we get back on track and provide some help for the original poster.

Thanks

Larry
 
i use the ARMS qd rings.now let me tell you why.they go back to zero.that means i can take my scope off one gun and use it on another.all i have to do is keep up with the adjustment for what gun it is on.it cost me very little money to change all my guns to the picitiny rail.i have a nightforce. wever 36x. and a mepota that i can switch according to what am doing.alot cheaper than buying scopes for each gun.works great.i think the armalite mount will do the same thing.you have to have the target knobs to do this.
 
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I have looked at Riser Bases and Standard Rings etc. and for someone that knows nothing about AR's this is indeed confusing.

Thanks

Larry



Larry, I helped a friend of mine build an AR LTWT like the one that I've got. He already had a Bushy Varminter, so he bought the same risers that the Varminter uses to put on his second flat top rifle. The risers run about $30(?) from Bushy. IIRC, he uses medium rings on his rifle w/the risers. To stay out of trouble, I'll skip brand names of rings here. He swaps a Zeiss scope between the two rifles with no apparent problems and he's happy with the sight picture that he gets with this setup. I've also fired his Bushy with the riser/ring setup and it fits me pretty well too. This is another viable option for scoping a flat top, in addition to other mounting systems that raise the scope mounting platform up to eye level. You can also find uppers with an EOP (Elevated Opitcal Platform) already built on them. These will just require a ring setup of choice. So you can choose from risers w/rings, various elevated platforms, ie. Armalite, LaRue, etc., rings of assorted heights, ie. Badger Ordnance, ARMS, etc, or an EOP upper. One more thing, if you go to: http://www.ar15.com/ you can find pictures, links to vendors and ideas for mounting your scope to an AR. FWIW MI VHNTR
 
Cheek weld and scope bell clearance are the main issues. You may have to try a couple to get what works best for you.

Last year,I bought an Armalite one piece mount for $37 on clearance. It was camo'd and discontinued. they do have 2 piece mounts on sale about halfway down the page. They should give you the proper sight alignment.

http://armalite.com/sales/specials/excess/Excess031008.htm
 
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IF I end up getting the AR I am saving for I'll probably opt for the Armalite One Piece Mount as that is what is on my buddies Rifle that fits me perfectly.

Thanks

Larry
 


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