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Come on now, little peoples. Lets get serious fer a sec.
How many of you have ever gone out to do some coyote callin' and used only your own wind power and what ever sound you could produce without the aid any device? And were successful.
I ain't gonna dwell on this cause ya'll wouldn't believe me nohows. But there is a dead mangy coyotus layin' out by my favorite callin' spot.
(Tech note;I changed servers and had to re-register.Formerly John69,PM#187)
Am I still the old man on the Form? (70years young)
 
Hey, John,
Welcome back. Been wonderin' what happened to ya. I'll have to hear you yodel someday. Myself, I've tried it in the privacy of my home, even squealed a time or two to show someone what it's supposed to sound like. But, if I don't bust up laughing, crying, choking or what not, I just don't last long enough to use it in the field.

The late Willis Kent was very good at using his voice for everything from rabbit squeals to howls. I watched him win two National Coyote Calling Championships using nothing but his vocal cords.
 
Used to be whenever I saw a fox or a bobcat cross the road in my highbeams I'd stop and practice my lipsqueaking technique. Gray fox can be called right back to the truck most of the time. Bobcats probably half the time.

Early on, someone showed me how to sound like a rat being constricted by a gopher snake using the crook of my wetted index finger (come to think of it they used the crook of their own wetted finger, not mine!) This has called many a critter to the camera for me ever since. Several bobcats have nearly crawled into my lap. Almost always can coax them closer with the squeak. When I've got something coming at a trot, I'll often stop the ecaller or blowing the tube and just squeak them in from there. This applies mostly to cats and fox, though.

Wetted-finger-crook bit is fairly loud, but it's nowhere near as loud as a reed and tube call. Can't say I've kept a count of how many coyotes, but I've called some over the years... a pack of a half dozen in the snow on the edge of Yosemite one winter evening. But definitely fewer than other species. Yotes just don't crawl into your lap on the creep, though they might well barrel over top of you... But more often they'll bust me further out, especially using a mouth call of any kind, including lipsqueaks. Also since they tend to come much, much further on the run than anything else, and inhabit open grassland here, I initially think of using more volume, and reach out to them with a Circe Jackrabbit tube or an ecaller instead. That said, I've had yotes respond to a lipsqueak from several hundred yards away, so it may be that the ultrahigh pitch of a lipsqueak just carries better than most other calls. And after you've been busted on the tube call and a yote has turned tail and is running away, sometimes they can be made to stop and look back for a moment with the lipsqueak. (Sometimes.)

More than once I've traded yaps and howls and yodels for upwards of a half an hour--haven't ever once budged a yote an inch closer doing this that I recall, but do remember it always hurt my voicebox for the next several days. Loads of fun though.

LionHo
 
I've been calling since about 1965 and always use the lipsqueak method on first calls from a stand. I find that if there are any close critters to my setup, they will pop up and come in. Lots of times when a person first gets to stand and "hammer down" on a call, if there is anything close it busts and runs. I have shot "lots" of critters using only the lipsqueak.
 
Hey John70, BubbaOkie:
Please tell us how you do your lipsqueaks, ie do you get your hands into it too or just purse your lips, what you are imitating, etc.

Betcha there's a bunch of guys on this forum who've either never heard of this ole Injun trick, or haven't a clue how truly effective it is. I can only say that in my experience nothing works better for calling or coaxing bobcats and foxes close-- really really close!
LionHo
 
Yo' Lionho,
John70 here.
Wasn't usin the "lipsqueak". Usin'cupped hands and mimicking the sound of a long tailed cat caught in a room full of rockin' chairs.
I was sittin' under the shade of a Oak tree,wearing my faded bibbies, a white T shirt,white socks with lo cut loafers, a bottle of water,and my 25-06.
Had more than one critter respond over a 1 and 1/2 hr period but shot only a manged male coyote.
Don't misunderstand what I'm asayin' here. I did'nt call fer no 1 1/2 hrs. Had me bout 1/2 hr nap-e-neu. Strainin'my jaw bone made me tired an sleepy.
Ya'll boys an girls have a great day and don't kill to many critters till come cooler days.(Unless, of course, their manged up.)
 
Hey John,

It's me, down the road on I-70 at the land of purple. Those critters were probably really curious as to what the h--- could make a sound like that.

I've been out shooting poodles twice this year with another trip coming up next weekend.

Do you still have your turntables? How would they fit/look on a 5x10 trailer?

Shooter
 
Shooter,
Yes, I still have the turn tables and Aluminum frame on which they were mounted. ( On top of a Jeep Wagoneer)
We can make it fit anything that has wheels and tires.
If I just knew how, I would post pictures of the rig when I used it to do a lot of P dog shooting.
Stop by the shop somtime when your in town and take me to dinner. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
John
 
Hard to explain how to lipsqueak. I just close my lips and suck in (I do left side of mouth). If i want more volume, I hold back of my hand over lips. Takes lots of practice....I feel like I can get a lot of volume if I want it. Sounds like a "loud" mouse.
 
Hey BubbaOkie:
Yeah, it IS hard to describe, isn't it? Gerry Blair wrote about it in his book, and that's about the only description I've ever seen in print before. But your 'loud mouse' is pretty accurate.

Got a space between my right front tooth and bicuspid that channels the air good for a natural mouse squeak. Lucky lucky me. But for any of you not so blessed, there's also a whole range of things that can be done to make sounds with just the hands and some slobber.

Can't say how I arrived at any of this, though--mostly it's just stuff I picked up hanging around talking to critters over the years. I've won over numerous girlfriends's "problem" cats, and even a puppy or a parrot or two, working out my technique, while the GF kept me waiting as she finished putting on her face. A really patient caller can chalk up some points here, points that can be later redeemed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Such a given to me for such a long time now that I can't imagine how the lipsqueak isn't in the reportoire of every serious Predator Caller.

LionHo
 
Hi 70, I'm right behind you at 69 +. I too lip call using lips sucked in and making a sucking puppy whining sound- cupping hands around mouth makes it lots louder.. BTW I'm going modern AP jones sent me a Preymaster, its really sounds good, hope to use it when cooler to help video tape a little, All my predators have always been zeroed in when I hand call and as soon as I raise guns- zoom- unless I'm faster.
Richard Grantham
 
Many a critter has come to the “kiss of death”, or the lip squeak. I pull my lips in over my teeth, then suck air in at the corner of my mouth. I can record the sound, and email it to someone; but I’ve been looking through some of the hosting sites I use and don’t see any that will host a wav file. Can’t post a link to the sound here on the board.
 
I figure the ole lipsqueak has gotten me many coyotes and bobcats I wouldn't have called up using other calls. What do you guys shoot at 'em?
I just started using a 22 Dasher this spring and love it. I just ordered another barrel to build another one on a Rem 788 that used to be a 22-250.
I use 8 twist barrels and the 80 grain Sierra HPBT's. Not much fur left...LOL. My first one is a Virgin Valley Custom Encore. Also have 243AI (VV) and 308 (Bulberry) barrels for it. My number one calling round is the tried and true 223 (I just have about 5 of these...LOL) How about the 17 MK4? I am having my Rem 700 VSSF 223 made into a switch barrel (with the other round being the 17 MK4).
 
John70,

I'll try and stop by sometime. Not in the immediate future though. I've got your email addy and somewhere I believe I've got your shop #. Stay tuned.

Shooter
 
Been using mouth calls for about 4 years now ,use to use a Johnny Stewart caller untill i found out i could use a mouth call well enough to call in some dogs . Now instead of carring a caller and tapes around it's alot easer to carry mouth calls and a good Sendero,that usually does the trick .
 
I was 71 in Feb, damn I am getting old, if I knew I was going to get this old I would have taken better care of myself. I have lip called fox, but never tried it on coyotes.
 
Looks like I'm the durn fool kid whippersnapper on this thread at 43.

So, is mouth-mouth calling or lipsqueaking becoming a lost art?

We're talking about having critters stalk to within several feet, using a technique that costs only your time to learn. If those guys argueing the merits of those expensive commercial ecallers over yonder only knew...

LionHo
 
It's been about 20 years ago, but was feeding cattle on the S. Canadian River bottom on our ranch one winter morning, and had gotten out of pickup to cut wire on some small square bales of hay. I had turned the pickup off, but was within 100 feet of it and in plain view. I spotted a coyote on a ridge about 150 yards off. The cows were close to me, so I just sit down on one of the bales and started lipsqueaking. (No Gun). The coyote heard ir and started my way. I squeaked that coyote to within probably 10 feet. I finally stood up and when I did that poor yote liked to have turned himself inside out. That was a hoot. If you have never tried that method, practice it, and try it.
 
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