WEATHERBY460
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Would a muzzle break work on a 22-250...i want to see my hits...if so...which one or who's should i get...thanks.
Muzzle break on 22-250 to see hits?
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fireball kid
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LOOOUUUDDDD
ARCOREY
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Proper form will do it for you for free without busting ear drums. Square your shoulders, get the heels down, get your spine parallel to the bore, load the bipod, follow through on the trigger and watch the red mist fly. With proper form you can watch hits with rifles much bigger than a 22-250
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bigbird243
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I Personally think muzzle brakes are where a fool and his money are parted. Just my 2 cents worth, but I wouldn't put up with that extra noise for any amount of seeing hits.
brdeano
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Originally Posted By: ARCOREYProper form will do it for you for free without busting ear drums. Square your shoulders, get the heels down, get your spine parallel to the bore, load the bipod, follow through on the trigger and watch the red mist fly. With proper form you can watch hits with rifles much bigger than a 22-250
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Yes. Modest X's out front will also help with spotting your own hits. That's why I really love glass that tops out in the 10x range. You just have to match your targets to your scope when shooting with lower power scopes. I have no issues shooting 1 MOA sized targets out to 1000 with just 10x scopes.
Yes. Modest X's out front will also help with spotting your own hits. That's why I really love glass that tops out in the 10x range. You just have to match your targets to your scope when shooting with lower power scopes. I have no issues shooting 1 MOA sized targets out to 1000 with just 10x scopes.
Ackman
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Originally Posted By: WEATHERBY460Would a muzzle break work on a 22-250...i want to see my hits...if so...which one or who's should i get...thanks.
Most all my varmint guns have brakes and they make shooting a lot more enjoyable. I like them. Yes on a 22-250 it'll work very well or not really be necessary.....just depends on what you're shooting and how.
Most all my varmint guns have brakes and they make shooting a lot more enjoyable. I like them. Yes on a 22-250 it'll work very well or not really be necessary.....just depends on what you're shooting and how.
with practice you can see your hits. it took me a while, but after time i can see my hits almost all the time with my 50. 22-250 is loud enough as it is, no thanks on the brake. if shooting from a bench or prone, or even sitting, seeing hits shouldnt really be a problem, if you are out of position nothing will fix it.
tt35
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I had a Holland brake on a VSSF in .22-250. Spotting your own shots was easy but, as mentioned, it was LOUD. Painful if you forgot the muffs; obnoxious for those at the bench next to it. My son used the gun while we were shooting prairie dogs in Wyoming. When he was at the bench next to me, it wasn't pleasant even with electronic muffs. The muzzle gases would rock you also. Definitely a trade off. In fact, that's what I did with my .22-250's--traded them off for .204's. Not for everyone but the .204's accomplished the same thing without a brake. Just my $.02 or less.
I have a Winchester Model 70 in 22-250 with a brake (BOSS) and it really works.
Like other posters said, it is really loud but luckily, the BOSS can be turned off by putting a sleeve over the brake.
That is the way that I use it when hunting and shooting and the brake is used only for sighting in.
Like other posters said, it is really loud but luckily, the BOSS can be turned off by putting a sleeve over the brake.
That is the way that I use it when hunting and shooting and the brake is used only for sighting in.
deathwind II
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I can occasionally see hits with my Rem. SPS .22-250, but haven't quite figured out why; probably the stock forend position on the rest/sticks, or the flinch factor. .22-250s, especially the pecil-barreled ones, are already loud for centerfire .22s; can't imagine what a brake and no muffs would sound like (or what damage to unprotected ears that would eventually do.) I agree: the easiest "solution" would be to pop for a .204.
Originally Posted By: 204farrSHREWD varment brake !! works grat and port are milled 7 degrees foward angle to help out on the noise . they are loud but you if you shoot varment grnades on p-dog you can see them actually them vaper smoke . not dust smoke.
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I run muzzle breaks on just about everything, have 7 different kinds...they are all about the same. If you want to hear some tall BS, as a gunsmith about the muzzle break he installs and sells for $250...I hope you wear waders if it is a face to face conversation.
A good friend of mine hated muzzle breaks, while I had them on everything. We had an agreement that he would shoot on one side of the truck and I on the other. There is no mistake a hit on a p.dog...loud plop. It seemed like every shot I made was a loud plop, got me to giggling at times.
Since I wear ear plugs and electronic ear muffs, I could hear no plops from my buddy's side of the truck. He was shooting a 40X in 22/250 and we had drilled the stock and added lead wool to reduce recoil...he rarely could see his hits, and when he did see the hit, he just saw the dog fly with no indication of hit location on the body. He got so mad he wanted to throw a couple of his rifles, ended up shooting a 223 and had to give it a death grip to see his hits. He had 3000- 223's loaded...I told him to make them last, because I was not going home till I had shot all my ammo.
I shot 6000 centerfires in two weeks, I could tell he wanted to go home...disgusted. On the next trip (three weeks later), every rifle he took had a muzzle break on it and he had 1500 rounds per gun.
We tried the low power thing years earlier, about 1979. Thing about low power is if there is a slight breeze, all you see is dust fly if you are not using a break...you really cannot tell how many inches left or right of center you hit, nor exact height.
Another thing we learned, don't lay on the ground and shoot p. dogs for too long. Neck and back hurts, ants sting you, cactus gets in your butt, laying on the ground stirrs up all kinds of bugs and deer flies that love to bite right through heavy jeans, and ammo is laying out in the sun cooking. I had a incident in Valentine, Nebraska where a rattle snake crawled out of a hole about 6 feet from my shooting pad. My buddy was spotting for me, and saw the snake...killed him. Another thing, spotters are usually very unreliable...they blink at the shot, look at the wrong dog, scratch a bug bite, loose patience on your squeezing the trigger, loose concentration just as you squeeze off.
This is just a hobby and you have to search out what is right for you, there really is no right or wrong...just what is right for you. Shooting on the ground does help you see your hits better, I'd rather stay at home than lay on the ground and shoot for 6-8 hours a day.
For me, the muzzle break added a whole new dimension to shooting dogs, and I had been shooting them for years perviously. When using a brake you don't just see your hit, you see the exact point of impact on the dog so you can adjust xx inches up or down...as yardage increases, so does your hit probability....another +.
Due to the fact that you can predict your next shot because you saw your exact point of impact on the dog, you can dial the windage and elevation into your scope(target knobs). It is amazing just how you can "place your shots" on the dog due to the fact that you can see your exact point of impact....not just aiming at center of mass.
Good luck on your dog shoot'en this year.
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I run muzzle breaks on just about everything, have 7 different kinds...they are all about the same. If you want to hear some tall BS, as a gunsmith about the muzzle break he installs and sells for $250...I hope you wear waders if it is a face to face conversation.
A good friend of mine hated muzzle breaks, while I had them on everything. We had an agreement that he would shoot on one side of the truck and I on the other. There is no mistake a hit on a p.dog...loud plop. It seemed like every shot I made was a loud plop, got me to giggling at times.
Since I wear ear plugs and electronic ear muffs, I could hear no plops from my buddy's side of the truck. He was shooting a 40X in 22/250 and we had drilled the stock and added lead wool to reduce recoil...he rarely could see his hits, and when he did see the hit, he just saw the dog fly with no indication of hit location on the body. He got so mad he wanted to throw a couple of his rifles, ended up shooting a 223 and had to give it a death grip to see his hits. He had 3000- 223's loaded...I told him to make them last, because I was not going home till I had shot all my ammo.
I shot 6000 centerfires in two weeks, I could tell he wanted to go home...disgusted. On the next trip (three weeks later), every rifle he took had a muzzle break on it and he had 1500 rounds per gun.
We tried the low power thing years earlier, about 1979. Thing about low power is if there is a slight breeze, all you see is dust fly if you are not using a break...you really cannot tell how many inches left or right of center you hit, nor exact height.
Another thing we learned, don't lay on the ground and shoot p. dogs for too long. Neck and back hurts, ants sting you, cactus gets in your butt, laying on the ground stirrs up all kinds of bugs and deer flies that love to bite right through heavy jeans, and ammo is laying out in the sun cooking. I had a incident in Valentine, Nebraska where a rattle snake crawled out of a hole about 6 feet from my shooting pad. My buddy was spotting for me, and saw the snake...killed him. Another thing, spotters are usually very unreliable...they blink at the shot, look at the wrong dog, scratch a bug bite, loose patience on your squeezing the trigger, loose concentration just as you squeeze off.
This is just a hobby and you have to search out what is right for you, there really is no right or wrong...just what is right for you. Shooting on the ground does help you see your hits better, I'd rather stay at home than lay on the ground and shoot for 6-8 hours a day.
For me, the muzzle break added a whole new dimension to shooting dogs, and I had been shooting them for years perviously. When using a brake you don't just see your hit, you see the exact point of impact on the dog so you can adjust xx inches up or down...as yardage increases, so does your hit probability....another +.
Due to the fact that you can predict your next shot because you saw your exact point of impact on the dog, you can dial the windage and elevation into your scope(target knobs). It is amazing just how you can "place your shots" on the dog due to the fact that you can see your exact point of impact....not just aiming at center of mass.
Good luck on your dog shoot'en this year.
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I like breakes on everything to. Here in Minnesota we have one x one mile sections. They are usally covers with white powdery snow. Now with the break on my #5 Pacnor barelled Tikka I can see my bullets out to a have mile. With just 10 power scope. Then I can make adj and send another.
bustem19
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Originally Posted By: bigbird243I Personally think muzzle brakes are where a fool and his money are parted. Just my 2 cents worth, but I wouldn't put up with that extra noise for any amount of seeing hits.
That all depends on what caliber you're shooting. On the 338 Lapua and the 300 Weatherby mag, it doesn't hurt to tame the beast. IMO I would rather put up with the extra noise then have a flinch develope from a kickin mule.
For a 22-250 I think you could train yourself so you can see the hit. I personally wouldn't put one on a smaller caliber.
That all depends on what caliber you're shooting. On the 338 Lapua and the 300 Weatherby mag, it doesn't hurt to tame the beast. IMO I would rather put up with the extra noise then have a flinch develope from a kickin mule.
For a 22-250 I think you could train yourself so you can see the hit. I personally wouldn't put one on a smaller caliber.