muzzle break questions....

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bigdummy30

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it seems most people on here aren't fans of them and i'm asking for my brother so don't hate to much...

he apparently can't handle the recoil (sissy)of his Savage light barrel 7mm mag. and is looking for a good brand muzzle break to cut down on the recoil....anybody have any brand suggestions or other info????...he is in southern pa. (new oxford) if anybody has any local gun shop recommendations as well....thanks
 
I wouldn't call him a sissy, I don't handle recoil well either. I just flat out don't like it.

A buddy just built a light(ish) 7wsm. He's running 162's at 3125 and it wears a VAIS break, which cuts recoil significantly. I was running it the other day and put a LOT of rounds through it and I found the recoil comparable, or maybe even a little less than my 243AI running 105's at 3250 in the same weight rifle. I had no problems spotting my own shots with the 7wsm when I was square behind the rifle. We were shooting steel just laying in the dirt and every now and then I'd be shifting targets and end up not square to the rifle and it would jump a little.

No way in [beeep] would I touch it off without earing protection though.
 
Muzzle brakes are great for reducing recoil, but absolutely require hearing protection.
I would check on longrange hunting or 6mm benchrest for quality products and smiths that can install them.
 
Electronic muffs are a given when going to a muzzle brake. Ear plugs won't cut it.
My brother has a 7mm savage I shot just once without a muzzle brake. It kicked worse than a 12 gauge 3 1/2 inch slug! That was enough for me. Something I have noticed with savage and ruger on big caliber guns that they seem to recoil the most. I can shoot rem. 700 & win model 70 and they don't seem to hurt half as bad. Maybe it's just me.
 
I have a Vais brake on my .220 Swift. Only one reason too. I want to watch the critters blow up when they are hit. Works too.

My Wonderful World of Color aint got nothing to do with Walt Disney. It is what I see in my scope .02 seconds after pulling my trigger with a prairie dog in my sights.
 
The Vais is pretty popular. I have a Browning BAR in 7mm Rem with the Boss muzzle brake on it. I got it as a Christmas present as a kid for a deer rifle and had never shot anything with a brake. My ears rang for about 2 days and I wound up buying the non-ported Boss tip for it. It definately reduced recoil, but I just couldn't deal with the noise. I think if you want to stop as much recoil as possibe and noise isn't a factor, the JP muzzle brake is the cat's behind. Here is a link:
http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=135-JPE
 
I have a gun smith here in MS i use and he does a great job just had him build me one for a 375 H&H went from kicking like a truck hitting you at 70 mph down to 30:06 range. He does great work and if need be can have something shipped to him. Just et me know and i can get his contact info if needed. Thanks Billy
 
My big game rifle is a Ruger 77 in 300win mag. About 20 years ago I sent the gun to Mag-na-Port Industries to have their Trapazoid ports put in it. It made the gun feel more like a 30-06. I don't notice it being any louder with the ports. I used it on a last minute hog hunt last year and shot a hog after the sun went down and that was the first time I was ever blinded by the flash from the ports. It was a good thing I didn't need a second shot because I couldn't get my night eyes back for about 10 minutes. Key
 
I agree with Xphunter.. If you shoot prone dont get one with holes all the way around
I also use a Holland on my 300 ultra and am totally amazed by the recoil reduction
 
You can get a hearing test, fire one shot with a muzzle break without ear protection, weight 2 Months, get another hearing test, and they can measure your permanent hearing loss. It is very small but every shot adds a little more. After a while it is hearing aid time. It is safer to go to a heavier rifle, or a smaller cartridge. I went to a 308 Winchester. One shot kills are the norm out to 300 Yards on elk. moose, and deer. 400 yards on coyotes. Bullet placement is a lot easier when the gun is fun to practice with, and cheaper to shoot. Not everyone will agree with me.
Frank
 
I use double hearing protection when practicing and wear the best I can afford hearing protection when I am hunting.
 
Originally Posted By: xphunterI use double hearing protection when practicing and wear the best I can afford hearing protection when I am hunting.

That seems a little strange to me not being able to hear anything around you hunting.
For muzzel brakes I make my own and they only have a hole out each side they work fine.
 
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Recoil is not my friend; I don't like it.
So, I've been shooting light recoil calibers, mostly 22, and 25 caliber centerfires.
I tore a retina in my left eye from shooting big boomers years ago. So, no more of that for me.
I was shooting a buddy's 7mm Rem Mag at the bench last summer that had the BOSS system on the barrel, Recoil was acceptable, and muzzle jump was reduced. I had ear muffs on, so I couldn't tell if it was noisy. I was able to concentrate of shooting, rather than the recoil of a 7mm mag. I also have a 7mm mag that doesn't bother me, but it has a MacMillan stock that is very well designed to help lower recoil. At the bench, I use a PAST shoulder pad that also helps.
Don't sell heavy recoil for less than what it is; it is not user friendly, especially for tearing retina's. It's not about being Macho. It's about being sensible.
 
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Originally Posted By: OKIE2Originally Posted By: xphunterI use double hearing protection when practicing and wear the best I can afford hearing protection when I am hunting.

That seems a little strange to me not being able to hear anything around you hunting.
For muzzel brakes I make my own and the only have a hole out each side they work fine.

There are several types of hearing protection available to the hunter. Some has the ability to actually enhance your hearing and protect you at the same time.
Depending on the type of hunting you do you can put it on a short time before you shoot.
 
I shoot smaller groups with a muzzle break, period.

Contrary to what most gunsmiths will tell you, you can have a muzzle break for multiple rifles of different calibers. For instance, I have a muzzle break that fits sporter barrels in 30/06, 270, and 25/06.

I wear peltor Tac 6 electronic ear muffs.

When in the field shooting p. dogs, chucks, and ground squirrels, I could always see my exact bullet impact...nuff said.

No one should shoot any rifle that is wearing a break without hearing protection...dumm'er than dumb.

Rifles at the rifle range are 4x+ more pleasurable to shoot with a break, even 22/250's.
 
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