My 1st ever attempt @ case annealing

Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKERGoing to have to try this myself.
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It was not time consuming the least little bit. I wanted to practice on these 40 cases because I have a batch of 200 of the Hornady once fired that should be arriving any day now. I plan to anneal them also. I see brass as a big investment, especially the way things are right now, and want to make sure I get as many loadings as possible out of it. I would estimate that I could anneal those 200 cases in roughly a half an hours time. That includes getting set up and then just having to give them time to dry after removing them from the water.
 
Originally Posted By: GregH Ricky,
I think they got too hot also. Map gas gets them too hot to quick. The blue color you saw should have the necks at about 725. Any hotter and the next color will have them 800 to 850, a real red and they are ruined. You can check the temp using tempilac below the shoulder, use the 650 degree version. If they have lost their spring they are maybe ruined. You can find it explained much better than I have but the process is pretty tricky. Most of us don't get it right! this process and an article by Sinclair Reloading Press will come up and explain it properly. Good luck!
Greg

That is a myth (and it is DUMB!!).

Templac below the shoulder tells you what the temperature is below the shoulder Duh... that is not where the annealing needs to take place - we want to anneal the neck (which is pretty far away from "below the shoulder").

Years ago, the shooting community picked up some bad annealing information from some guy that was plugging his annealing machine, and all the shooting "experts" keep repeating the same garbage back and forth to each other.

To get information on annealing brass, look at metallurgical sites, not the gun or reloading sites.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/archive/index.php/t-22283.html

http://www.speedymetals.com/information/Material13.html


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Originally Posted By: Warboar_21It looks as if they got a little to warm to me. Did you use any paint to or a welder's temp stick to show the proper temp? I could be wrong but in the pic they sure look like they were to hot.

Yep, you are wrong....

You aswell...
Originally Posted By: GregH Ricky,
I think they got too hot also. Map gas gets them too hot to quick. The blue color you saw should have the necks at about 725. Any hotter and the next color will have them 800 to 850, a real red and they are ruined. You can check the temp using tempilac below the shoulder, use the 650 degree version. If they have lost their spring they are maybe ruined.
 
What if you shoot brass that is already annealed ? Like Norma or nosler? It says its already done ? Do u have to do it again after so many firings.?
 
I would assume that if you started getting some split necks, then it might be time to consider annealing. Otherwise, a person could just do it after every 4th or 5th loading as a sorta preventative maintenance type thing. I guess if you like buying new brass ... don't do it at all!
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Originally Posted By: tuneredI never heard of any brass being advertised as non annealed, i believe ALL new brass is.

I would be really surprised if Winchester or Remington was annealed
 
Originally Posted By: EJ ReichenbachOriginally Posted By: tuneredI never heard of any brass being advertised as non annealed, i believe ALL new brass is.

I would be really surprised if Winchester or Remington was annealed

It is annealed. All new cases are.
 
Annealing needs to be done when brass has been work hardened(resized) annealing is bringing the brass back to original softness. New never been fired brass does not need to be annealed,though it can help with consistent neck tension. It takes a few resizings to work harden brass. Personally I anneal after 4th loading,I have some hornady brass for my .243 that is on its 84th loading and not a single case in the lot has been damaged or cracked. im no expert but it has worked for me. I normally dont anneal new brass till its well fire formed.ie.3 loads or so imo
 
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I dont think new brass is normally annealed or the high end brass company's would not advertise their brass is annealed
 
All new brass is annealed - it is impossible to make cartridge cases without annealing them in the process.

Most Europeans makers, and all military makers like Lake City, leave the annealing colors on the cases.

American makers polish the cases after they are made, cuz Americans like shiny stuff.

You can anneal new cases for uniformity and it hurts nothing. I have about 350 Remington 22-250 cases that have been fired about 45 times, and gone through 5 barrels. I kept them annealed, and sized them to a crush fit.

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Originally Posted By: CatShooterAmerican makers polish the cases after they are made, cuz Americans like stuff shiny.

Cat-

You have just proven to me that i'm a true American! Thanks.
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Can't go wrong with a little BLING BLING.
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Originally Posted By: jasentI dont[sic] think new brass is normally annealed or the high end brass company's[sic] would not advertise their brass is annealed

They have to advertise that it is annealed, cuz guys like you don't believe that it is annealed.

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