My 1st semi-auto pistol

Grouse,that's the wisest advise I've seen on one of the open forums in a while.Good on you for knowing what a win really is in the home ,family protection case.
Something I have noticed over the last several years,how many ADs have you heard about or seen evidence of with Glocks?How many with cocked and locked 1911s?Not trying to start anything but I don't know anyone personally who can tell me of an AD with a 1911,not so with the Glock.Wonder why that is?
Dr McCormick used to have me assist with autopsies so I saw a few gunshots.All are bad,but a .22 can do some nasty stuff.It sometimes takes a while though. I just mean don't think it wont hurt you cause its little. My best friend was killed with a .22
 
Ricky Bobby said:
I have a feeling that a Springfield XDM or Smith & Wesson will end up being what I choose. I will need to take the time and see what models are available & try to put them in my hands, to get a feel for what I like. I will take a good look at the Glocks, also.

Anyone have experience using LaserMax internal lasers on your handguns? I think that the internal guide rod laser would make for a nice setup. Just looking for some reviews on them. [ Just for s##ts and giggles, I have an XDM in9mm. Buddy has S&W Sigma 9mm. We were shooting on range both have 19 shot clips. My XDM would shoot 19 shots 2.5 seconds faster due to the short trigger pull. Also was way more accurate. That was switching guns and shooters too. I have the Crimsom Trace laser guard on the XDM, you like it better than Laser Max because of switch location.
 
I had one of the first XD-40's when they came out, it was a good gun but I wasn't happy with the grip or trigger, and sold the gun to a buddy. I now have a M&P40 and really like this gun, I use the medium size grips and like the trigger and thumb safety. In hind sight I am glad I made the switch.
 
Originally Posted By: TripleDeuce660Originally Posted By: berger-kingglock 20.. 10mm

+1

But seriously the 9mm may have killed more humans than any other round, plus ammo is cheap. Humans are weak physically and mentally. IMHO even 22lr will disable the attacker or send him running the other direction.



Mental state, and/or alcohol or drugs changes all that. There are many, many recorded cases of people soaking up round after round and staying in the fight or continuing to attack. Never plan for the best case scenario and you will be less likely to be severely disappointed when the flag goes up.
 
Originally Posted By: turkeyguyTake a look at Walther PPQ. Great trigger and good ergonomics. Mine shoots well
+1
Awesome gun and probably the best factory trigger on a polymer gun to date.
 
I was once an EMT for a period of my younger life.I saw men shot dead with a .22 when you could not hardly find the wound.I saw a man shot in the chest with a 12 gauge shotgun from the width of a small room.He is alive and going strong today.You just can't tell what will happen. When we were young,a young man took a shot at my friend with a .22 rifle.He did not mean to hit him,just scare him,the bullet hit a piece of steel and split in two.A piece went into my friends heart.He was dead at 24 years.
 
Quote:I have a feeling that a Springfield XDM or Smith & Wesson will end up being what I choose. The XDM and M&P are both good choices. As others have said, just get the one you like the best. If you go with the XDM just be sure the way you grip the gun (conformation of your hand) will allow you to get the grip safety depressed without conscious thought.
 
Originally Posted By: Ricky BobbyI have a feeling that a Springfield XDM or Smith & Wesson will end up being what I choose. I will need to take the time and see what models are available & try to put them in my hands, to get a feel for what I like. I will take a good look at the Glocks, also.

Anyone have experience using LaserMax internal lasers on your handguns? I think that the internal guide rod laser would make for a nice setup. Just looking for some reviews on them.

IMHO, a good tactical flashlight is a far better choice than a laser. Not that the lasers are not cool, but I found myself spending more time trying to find the little dot in low light conditions than in focusing on my mechanics. Lasers also do nothing for target identification, but they do light up the shooter and give away your location really well. You can also gain some tactical advantage by blinding the subject, giving you that split second edge.
 
I'm no fan of lasers either. Feller can get shot while he is still looking for that little dot on the target.
 
Originally Posted By: GCI'm no fan of lasers either. Feller can get shot while he is still looking for that little dot on the target.

Thank you! I tell people that every day at the counter. I also tell them that when discussing a defensive weapon, I do not want my gun to run on batteries. Murphy's law alone says they will fail at and only when you need them most. I like simple things.

Chupa
 
Any time a pistol shooter asks me about a weapon light or a
laser sight, I say save your money and just get a lighted
sign that says, "Shoot Here", and hang it around your neck.
Now if you are part of an assault team, armored up, and well
covered, you may want to draw fire so the other team members
can take out the threat. But individuals, with elevated
adrenalin levels, suffering from fear and tunnel vision,
should have learned their tactics without a weapon light
or a laser sight. Fumbling with lights, or finding the
dancing red dot, can get one shot before getting off the
first shot. Learn how to use a hand held tac light.

I like laser sights for training purposes, since it shows
where the muzzle is going just prior to the bullet exiting the
barrel. But once the technique is corrected, turn the silly
thing off.

Squeeze
 
Originally Posted By: ChupathingyOriginally Posted By: GCI'm no fan of lasers either. Feller can get shot while he is still looking for that little dot on the target.

Thank you! I tell people that every day at the counter. I also tell them that when discussing a defensive weapon, I do not want my gun to run on batteries. Murphy's law alone says they will fail at and only when you need them most. I like simple things.

Chupa

LOVE IT!!!
 
You guys all make very valid points that I will keep in mind once I get up and running with a semi-auto pistol. My #1 priority is going to be range time & then I'll worry about the rest after that. I would like to have some type of light & whichever handgun I end up with, will have a rail.

Which style night sights is everyone using on their semi-autos?

Mepro light, Trijicon, and Williams are a few that come to my mind.
 
Originally Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Which style night sights is everyone using on their semi-autos?

Mepro light, Trijicon, and Williams are a few that come to my mind.


Here is something else to consider Ricky. If it's so dark that you need "Night Sights"....It's too dark to identify your intended target.

Again, think simple brother.


Chupa
 
Originally Posted By: ChupathingyOriginally Posted By: Ricky Bobby

Which style night sights is everyone using on their semi-autos?

Mepro light, Trijicon, and Williams are a few that come to my mind.


Here is something else to consider Ricky. If it's so dark that you need "Night Sights"....It's too dark to identify your intended target.

Again, think simple brother.


Chupa

Chupa hit it on the head. You are going to spend too much time looking for the little dots. When I started using mine in competition, I found the dots mostly useless. I found that I tended to use the silhouette of the sights more. I also had issues with powder fouling getting into the dots and starting to block them. The best thing I found the night sights for was to see the gun in the safe when I went to grab for it.

Ricky the best thing you can do is practice so much with whatever new gun you choose, that it becomes an extension of your arm, and that you can operate it without a lot of extraneous thoughts. You will need to be able to stay focused on the situation, and not on the actual gun itself. Practice, practice, practice. Having gone into situations like that, I can tell you it is reassuring to know that I can operate my gun on "auto pilot" so that I can stay focused on the situation so that I won't be as likely to make mistakes.
 
No FN love? I've had XDs, Glocks, 1911s etc...

Hated Glock grip angle

Loved the XD but I like a hammer gun

1911s are great for just about anything, but heavy

I sold off all but my kimber and now my FNP-9 and 45 are all I carry.

P.S. they are made in the USA
 
I have been looking into the crystal ball ... and I'm pretty sure I can see a Springfield XD sub-compact headed my way! It is chambered in 40 S&W. I'm really anxious to get some range time with it.



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