My rifle cleaning regimen... no brushes

MongoMike

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I am just curious if there are others that use a similar rifle cleaning regimen to mine.

Over the last ten years, I have gone almost completely away from brushes(My Grandpa is turning over in his grave as I type this), and have gone to chemicals except in extremely fouled (especially with copper or lead) or abused barrels. I am a high volume shooter, and I have found that unless I go too many rounds between cleaning, chemicals work just fine for me. They also seem to be much easier on my rifles, especially the crowns. I also have a Hawkeye borescope and use it to verify my findings.

Most of the time I use foaming bore cleaners, like Wipeout, Outers, or Gunslick foam. I only go 20 minutes and patch the barrel out, and sometimes go for another 20 minute application. I finish up with a bore oil/lube if the rifle is to be stored, or none if it will be shot in the near future. For my deer rifles, I only clean them once right after deer season. Before deer season, I run an oily patch down the bore and then fire some fouling shots and recheck scope zero. I admit most of my rifles have custom barrels, which are less prone to fouling and copper.

For my bolt action coyote rifles that get used all winter, I usually clean them only one time each between October and March, and sometimes nonce. They get a lot of use, like 30 or more hunts, so when I clean them in the spring I remove the barreled action from the stock and really give them a good cleaning. I also grease the side of the safety and the bolt release. During a prairie dog hunt I clean each rifle once every day, and sometimes have to break out the copper brushes.

Some of my other favorite chems are K1, Ballistol, Shooters Choice, Brakleen(non-chlorinated), Witches Brew bore lube, and Hoppes #9. For serious copper fouling I use K12 and Witches Brew Copper Cleaner.

After each bolt action rifle cleaning, I place a microdot of light gun grease (Shooters choice red in a hypo syringe) on the back of each locking lug to prevent galling and one dot in the camming area near the back of the bolt, especially on Rem 700s.

I use quality rods, (my favorites are BoreTech), and I try to match the rod to the bore diameter. In other words, I don't use a .224 rod in a 30 caliber barrel. I use bore guides, nickel plated Tipton jags (that will not react to the foam), and I try to make sure my patches are loose enough to keep the rod from flexing and touching the rifling. If the patch is too tight it will also unspin the jag. The bore guide almost eliminates rod flex and helps keep liquid chemicals off the stock and work area.
 
I *might* run a snake through my hunting rifle at the beginning of season to knock the dust out, and at the end before it's stored because it's often had a massive 3 round count fired through it. 1 to check the scope, 2nd to confirm the first and the 3rd required before field dressing. If you skip the 3rd round, you end up dressing a very grumpy animal.

I'm a charter member of the 'only clean it when it needs it' club.
 
If I didn't fire but 4 rounds a year I wouldn't worry about it either. But, it's real typical to fire 200 a day sometimes...I own a range behind my house. So a "dust knocking"{that's about all it knocks} bore snake is not my answer. As novel as they appear, a boresnake type device is good for making sure you don't have a bore obstruction when you cant look thru the bore, that's about all it can do.
Like the OP I also have a borescope...best tool I ever bought, even though it hurt at the time to write that check. I am continually amazed at how many people think they have a clean bore and think they know how to clean one. You may be very knowledgeable...even have a PHD. in cleaning bores, but I can see more than you will ever know!!!!
I got away from brushes sometime ago. I only found them good when you had poor solvent and powder fouling only. I prefer Shooters Choice for general use and JB Bore Cleaner for copper. You can B.S. around with chemicals trying to get copper to dissolve...or you can go ahead and get it out of the bore right now. I like the right now...more time to go copper it up again!!! Chemicals don't work bad if you don't have a lot of copper fouling.
 
My hunting rifles see 4 a year, my other guns see a smidge more
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Snakes are not intended for much more than a running a lot of patches will accomplish. They perform that well enough wkthout spending a lot of time. Personally i see "cleaning" as a hobby for some. Im not knocking that, some people wash their car every day and it makes them happy. For me, as long as the downrange performance is good, the picture in the scope is more of a novelty than information.

I do find it amusing when people talk about actually cleaning a gun, followed by how it needs to be dirtied again to get is accuracy back.

My 20p has about 900 down the tube since the last actual cleaning, still shoots touching groups. I had an hmr with over 3k on it,still couldnt count individual bullets (excluding when i pulled a shot). As ive often said, im not a competition or a benchrest shooter so my needs are going to be drastically different. Range time to make sure my field time on varmints goes well, shooting practice on varmints so that 1 trigger pull during actual hunting goes well.

Different strokes for different folks
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Originally Posted By: NdIndy

"I do find it amusing when people talk about actually cleaning a gun, followed by how it needs to be dirtied again to get is accuracy back.

Different strokes for different folks :)"



My first one or two rounds fired from a super clean barrel are always, without exception, at least one MOA off from the rest. Once I shoot that fouling shot or two, it settles down to the rifles normal groups. If you don't have a one inch gun to start with, it may not be an issue.
 
Originally Posted By: NdIndyMy hunting rifles see 4 a year, my other guns see a smidge more
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Snakes are not intended for much more than a running a lot of patches will accomplish. They perform that well enough wkthout spending a lot of time. Personally i see "cleaning" as a hobby for some. Im not knocking that, some people wash their car every day and it makes them happy. For me, as long as the downrange performance is good, the picture in the scope is more of a novelty than information.

I do find it amusing when people talk about actually cleaning a gun, followed by how it needs to be dirtied again to get is accuracy back.

My 20p has about 900 down the tube since the last actual cleaning, still shoots touching groups. I had an hmr with over 3k on it,still couldnt count individual bullets (excluding when i pulled a shot). As ive often said, im not a competition or a benchrest shooter so my needs are going to be drastically different. Range time to make sure my field time on varmints goes well, shooting practice on varmints so that 1 trigger pull during actual hunting goes well.

Different strokes for different folks
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Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong...if it aint broke don't fix it. If I had a barrel that would go 200 rounds, let alone 900 and still shoot...I wouldn't clean it either. Once in a while you can luck out and get a good barrel that just wont foul. I am waiting on a blank right now so I can rebarrel one of my hunting rifles. I can clean this thing {with the barrel on it now, which by the way aint no cheap barrel @ just this side of $500.00} and in 10 rounds it opens to 6-10 inches...so much copper in the bore it's ridiculous. I cannot get it to stop.
 
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