Needing some wisdom from you suppressor folks

Tyler Burgin

Tyler Burgin

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I was cruising through a missouri hunting forum on another site and saw a photo of a missouri hunter posing with his deer and a silencer on his AR. From the research I have done since then it looks like suppressors are now legal to own in missouri. My question is, is this true, and can I hunt with one? If this is true Where do I sign up! I've always wanted one!
 
I have no idea if they are legal in your state or not but for what it's worth you will have anywhere from $1000-$1500+ and months of wait time involved by the time you are all done.
 
Originally Posted By: Tyler BurginI was cruising through a missouri hunting forum on another site and saw a photo of a missouri hunter posing with his deer and a silencer on his AR. From the research I have done since then it looks like suppressors are now legal to own in missouri. My question is, is this true, and can I hunt with one? If this is true Where do I sign up! I've always wanted one!

Yes and yes.

Go here.
http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/pdf/HUNTING%20WITH%20SUPPRESSORS-STATE%20LAW%20COMPILATION.pdf

You start by finding the suppressor you want (look on line and ask here - lotta guys here have them).

Then, when yo know what you want, fine a class 3 dealer near you. you pay for the suppressor up front. When it comes in, THEN you fill out the paperwork, and send it in, with a check or MO for $200. It can take 3 months, or 10 months.

When the background check has passed, the feds send the stamp to the dealer, and you pick up the can then - get a dealer close to you, cuz he cannot UPS the can to you.

All together, it will be $700 to ~$1,000 for the average can, and more if you get crazy. Probably cost $75 to $100 to thread the muzzle of the rifle.


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Go ahead and buy a direct thread 30cal can and be done with it. That way you can shoot it on every rifle you own up to and including 308, '06, some are even rated for 300win mag.

Don't do like I did and say.... Ahh I won't want it on anything else just the 223 AR and some other small stuff. That line of thought lasts till you fire your first round! Then you don't want to ever shoot a rifle without one again! LOL

You have to be careful this NFA stuff gets expensive quick, fast and in a hurry once you get started.
 
Originally Posted By: B23I have no idea if they are legal in your state or not but for what it's worth you will have anywhere from $1000-$1500+ and months of wait time involved by the time you are all done.

The wait time is right, but you can get into a suppressor a lot cheaper than that including your tax stamp.
 
That's good to hear because everything I've looked at started at $800 and went up from there. Add that to the tax stamp and having the barrel threaded and it was well over $1000.

Any of you see the adapter that someone, don't recall who it was, made that uses a oil filter as the suppressor?
 
My first can was a direct thread gemtech m402, between it and the stamp I have about 750-800 wrapped up in it. 22 cal cans are cheaper than 30's and stainless cans are cheaper than titanium ones. Direct thread cans are cheaper than quick detatach ones considering the extra flash hiders or adapters you have to buy for each rifle you put it on.

So yea you can get into one for less than a grand but is it going to be the can you want next year or even 5 years down the road? These things are not like a rifle where if you don't like it you can sell it to a buddy and have another tomorrow. You can sell it back to your dealer that got it for you but then you just gave the government 200 bucks for nothing. It's something that takes a bit of thought and if you spend just a little more now you probably would be a lot happier down the road.

 
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Originally Posted By: B23That's good to hear because everything I've looked at started at $800 and went up from there. Add that to the tax stamp and having the barrel threaded and it was well over $1000.

Any of you see the adapter that someone, don't recall who it was, made that uses a oil filter as the suppressor?

I bought a stainless steel suppressor, with a three lug, Q/D Bayonet mount and three bayonet barrel adapters for ~$550-ish.

My hassle was the local Police chief refused to sign the papers, so I had to spend $750 to form a trust, and then pay the $200 for the tax stamp - which sucked.

But the upside is that I can now buy all of my class three stuff on the trust, and leave it to my son and there are no more transfer taxes or paperwork for him when I die (which I have threatened him I will never do).

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The oil can suppressor is CadizGunWorks




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Thanks for all the advice and great starting points. I know it will be a long expensive process but I don't have a hobby that isn't expensive. Would a 30 cal suppressor work on a 223 and 243? The two guns i have that would be interested in having are my 223 wssm, may rebarrel to 243wssm and my 6.8 spc which already has a threaded barrel.
 
I will be the voice of reason here. If you are shooting SuperSonic ammunition you will not have "Hollywood Quiet". It does not matter what caliber or cartridge you choose, the supersonic crack still makes noise. Even Subsonic can be noisier that you think.

The key to making less noise is using a heavy bullet that does not exceed the speed of sound. The 45 ACP is a great example. The 22 lr can also be suppressed quite easlily. The 9mm with 147 grain bullets is subsonic. The 223 and up is still not hearing safe (as defined by OSHA) but is much less muzzle blast and noise from a 16 in AR.

You just have to get over the wait for a stamp, the cost of the stamp, and the cost of the initial purchase. Mostly it is a lifetime purchase. It is harder to sell a used Suppressor (not impossible) and they will not retain their value as the technology gets better all the time.

One thing mentioned earlier, your heirs can inherit your NFA items tax free without using a trust. The trust offers the advantage of allowing others to be in possession of the NFA/Class3 items (I include that for the jackoff that took me to task for referring to them as Class 3 items) vs Individual who must always be present. Also the LEO signoff is waived when using a trust.
 
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