NEW REMINGTON 700 CDL LE 17 FB?

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Harmon

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I just purchsed NIB 17 fb it is the limited edition. I am a little worried that there will be no ammo available soon. Should I convert it to the new 17 hornet? I have shot the 17 fb a few months ago and loved it, so I really want one but if they are going to stop making it, should I convert it to something else? Just wanting ya'lls thoughts on it.
 
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As long as you reload you have no issues. When you burn up the barrel then worry about rechambering. The .17 has been a strange cartridge, it comes and goes in different guises.

Had the .17 Remington when it came out, I hated, to windy here.
 
Originally Posted By: HarmonI just purchsed NIB 17 fb it is the limited edition. I am a little worried that there will be no ammo available soon. Should I convert it to the new 17 hornet? I have shot the 17 fb a few months ago and loved it, so I really want one but if they are going to stop making it, should I convert it to something else? Just wanting ya'lls thoughts on it.

I would keep it just as it is. They'll make commercial ammo for many years and if you reload you won't ever have any problems.

Quote:As long as you reload you have no issues. When you burn up the barrel then worry about rechambering. The .17 has been a strange cartridge, it comes and goes in different guises.

Had the .17 Remington when it came out, I hated, to windy here.


If it's to windy there shooting a 17 Rem. and 25gr. bullets out to 250yds. or the 30gr. out to 300yds., then what did you replace it with that those heavy winds didn't affect? The 17 Rem. and its many variations is used a lot out West where its almost always windy.
I've been shooting a 17 Rem. for 41yrs. and when it got so windy I couldn't use it, there wasn't anything else usable either.
 
I would keep it as is and invest in reloading equipment instead of rechambering. I think factory ammo for the .17 fireball be be around for a while. One day there may not be a lot of choices, but I think it will be available.
 
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Harmon said:
If it's to windy there shooting a 17 Rem. and 25gr. bullets out to 250yds. or the 30gr. out to 300yds., then what did you replace it with that those heavy winds didn't affect? The 17 Rem. and its many variations is used a lot out West where its almost always windy.
I've been shooting a 17 Rem. for 41yrs. and when it got so windy I couldn't use it, there wasn't anything else usable either.

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Couldn't have said it better.

As for your CDL, wrong bolt face for the Hornet, and I'm not sure anyone's ever converted a M7 to extract a rimmed case (not to mention what an endevor like that would cost) so forget that idea.

If you plan to reload anyway, what's the worry? Reloaders have been shooting the original MK4 for over fifty years without a problem. Truth is, there ain't that many choices for factory ammo now anywho.

Leave it as is and enjoy.
They're great little rifles after a little love.
My buddy down in NV bought one that shot OK but not great.
We floated the barrel, bedded the action, and put an older 700 trigger I had on hand in her, and it now shoots right with my P-N barreled CZ.

We call em the "Dueling Fireball's".
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Another wise-azz comment from a guy who's never even owned a 17cal centerfire rifle, and only been shooting any kind of centerfire for a few years.

Gee, that never gets old.

ETA,, I've lived in the 'windy" west and have shot a 17Rem for over thirty years and I can tell you that what K22 said is dead on.
Read what he actually said about "shooting in the wind" before parroting what you've learned on the internet.
 
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I tell ya what gets old is your attitude around this place.

Only been shooting a Centerfire for a few years huh? Another lame comment coming from Idaho.

Something tells me that a 25g bullet with a bc of .184 dosent cut the wind like a 69g Sierra or 75 amax.

What's even better is that anytime anyone disagrees about a 17 rem, you are always here to basically call them a liar. I've been reading about the 17s and their wind sensitivity problems since I've been reading about varminting in general

I'm guessing you're single
 
Well,,, seeings how K22 and myself have both been shooting 17cals TWICE as long as you've even been alive, your opinion of em means squat to me.

So,,,, at a whopping "TWENTY" years old, tell us exactly how long you've actually been shooting centerfires.
 
There's not a whole lot that means sqat to you. You are the all knowing.
Do a search on RePete around this place and look at all the smart azz comments youve left. Better yet I've heard quite a bit of forum talk from other forums and members. I may not be a favorite around here but you sir are well thought of by few. From what I gather Every "friend" you have seems from to be from a different state.

And again my guess is you are divorced and single.


FYI I received my first Centerfire 11 years ago.

I'm finished here, and Repete, I don't need another stupid azz pm from you. That would be a direct TOS violation and I've let the last 2 go.


To the original poster- my apologies. I would hang onto the rifle and take up reloading. The CDL is a nice piece for sure.
 
Lol....!!

When you can't refute someone else's real life experience, try personal attacks on their marriage status to cloud the issue. Priceless, foxy. But aren't personal attacks a TOS violation?

I'm going with the old guys. And not because I'm old too, but because even though I'm not a 17 shooter, I'm betting they know what they are talking about and they aren't just smoke blowers who read a lot and then exhale opinions.

And from my experience, if you look around at other forums where RePete posts, he seems to be highly knowledgeable and very well respected. But I'm sure I'm wrong if you have other valid information.
 
I wasn't trying to get anyone spun up from the question, but I appreciate your inputs. I am going to start reloading when I return back to the States, I'm on deployment right now. I was just making sure that there will be brass available for the fireball in the future. I'm not sure if 17 mark iv brass will work?

I have a cooper .204, and two 17 HMR's Anshutz, and a Ruger I had custom built by Chase Mountain custom about seven years ago, I don't think they are in buisness anymore though, but did great work on my rifle. I have a new fond love for small calibers and after shooting the 17 FB, I had to get one.
 
Quote:higher speeds and less bearing surface for the wind to hit counteracts its affect to some degree as well.

That is correct. Thanks Bigsky......

getfoxy,

Why would RePete and I attempt to mislead someone? What would our motive be?
I have owned and shot every factory Predator/Varmint tht has been made, ( I love small calibers) and I'm telling you the truth when I say that a 17 cal. bullet is NOT effected by the wind out to a certain distance as a bigger bullet is.
I thought a quote from a dedicated Coyote Hunter might be appropriate and also let me add that if you are actually interested in the truth about small calibers and specifically the 17's, then there is a website dedicated to that.
Quote:First, the .17 Remington is the subject of more misinformation, slander, and outright distortion than any other caliber that I can think of offhand. The only caliber that comes close is the .220 Swift, with the clinging "truth" that it "burns out the throat" in no time.

Like the urban myth concerning the morning-after message written in lipstick on the bathroom mirror that said "Welcome to the wonderful world of AIDS," the myths surrounding the .17 Rem are perpetuated again and again in articles in the shooting press, posts to newsgroups and bulletin boards, and word by of mouth from shooter to shooter. There is a vocal minority of shooters who have actually owned, fired, and hunted with the .17 Rem, and they have a decidedly different opinion; but as is so often the case their voices are submerged in the general clamor of the ignorant and unwashed.

It's common to hear that the .17 Rem. is useless when there is anything more than a slight breeze blowing, because the bullet drift is horrific and the little bullet sheds velocity so fast that the trajectory is roughly analogous to a falling rock. With all of the hot air coming out of guys regarding the .17 Rem., the wind is bound to be blowing most of the time, no matter where you are, so that is a matter of some concern for varminters who are contemplating the purchase of a rifle in this caliber.

Now, I'll tell you up front that I'm not a heavy-duty ballistics guy. I have a retarded grasp on distance that allows me to determine whether a coyote is close enough for me to kill or not, and I pretty much let it go at that. I do, however, have enough savvy to use a ballistics calculator, and the chart and statistics pictured below ought to give you a pretty good idea that the .17 Rem is not a ballistic twin to the .22 rimfire.


Range 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450 500 Yards
Velocity 4000 3730 3464 3204 2949 2701 2459 2224 1997 1778 1567 fp/sec
Energy 888 772 666 570 483 405 336 274 221 175 136 ft/lbs
Deflection 0.0 0.2 1.0 2.3 4.3 7.2 10.9 15.8 21.9 29.7 39.4 wind/in
Drop -1.5 -0.4 0.0 -0.3 -1.4 -3.5 -6.8 -11.4 -17.6 -25.7 -36.2 inches



These statistics, by the way, were generated using the Web Ballistics Computer , by David Basiji. It's a freeware program that runs from his server, so there is no download necessary. Just click on the link and you too can waste time entering loads and marveling over their performance relative to one another, rather than killing coyotes and observing the actual results when you skin them.
If you elect to do this, though, run some #'s for the various .22 caliber loads that you might have used, or heard of others using, and you'll be surprised how close they really are, 'specially if you look at ranges inside of 300 yards (and if you can't call a coyote any closer than that to begin with, you need to read the rest of this page carefully).

 
Just so you know, I could care less what another person prefers and shoots. I would even back up they're right to shoot it. My goal is to attempt to get some truth out on these forums concerning 17 and 20 calibers. It is very frustrating read some of these so called experts tell how they know that the wind blows these little bullets all over the place or don't use a 204 because it won't DRT a Coyote, ect. ect.
I would say that for the most part I'm wasting my breath and should just ignore the BS. But there are days I just can't do it.
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Shoot the correct bullet in the correct place on a Coyote in a 17 or 20 cal. and out to at least 300yds. you will have a DRT Coyote.
 
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