Newbie dumb question live bait

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hammer007

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Ok the other day I missed my first yote. In the back of my truck I had a rabbit in a live trap.

Should I have used that rabbit on my hunt?

If so how?

If you need to feel free to PM if we are getting on some PETA type of topic.

Thanks Hammer
 
First off is it a male or female rabbit .. if it's a male tie a rope around his foot where he can't run off and tie it to a stake that is in the ground .. then you will need a pieace of long fishing string and run it back to your hunting postion and every-now and then give that little string a tugg .. and he will jump up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif,,ooo /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif i forgot to tell you where to tie the other end to ,, you should get the idieal by now ,, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
"Should I have used that rabbit on my hunt?"

The short answer.....no!

If I have to explain why, does that make me a supporter of PETA?

I know no place that it is legal.

Why don't you learn how to call, spot and stalk, shoot off a dead pile or any of the other options open to you.
 
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"Should I have used that rabbit on my hunt?"
Why don't you learn how to call, spot and stalk, shoot off a dead pile or any of the other options open to you.



Well I am trying to learn how to hunt coyotes from everyone here which includes call, spot and stalk, shoot off a dead pile.

I will be the first to admit I am a lousy coyote hunter and am just learning how to hunt them.

I just was asking if it is normal or anyone uses live/dead rabbits as bait. They are unprotected here.

I remember someone suggesting nailing a house cat to a piece of plywood to call them in.

I just want to learn everthing I can from this group of guys.

Is it illegal in your area to kill the rabbit and then use it as bait?

So how is a dead pile legal if a dead rabbit is illegal.

Seems after that one post about avideo on here everyone is a little jumpy. Lets get this out of the way quick sorry if I offended you.

Thanks
Hammer
 
You didn't offend me.Now that's out of the way.

It is not the rabbit part of your plan that I have a problem with, it is the "live" part.
Some places it is legal to use bait, but I know of no place that live animals can be used.

Because something is on the internet, doesn't necessarily make it a good idea. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Nailing a cat to a piece of plywood would get you arrested any place I know. This question of live bait comes up often enough on this board and it usually is accompanied by the Peta remarks directed at those that think live bait is a bad idea.

I wasn't beating you up when I said to try calling etc. Those methods are very effective.

And as far as being jumpy, I'm a frog for heaven sake I'm supposed to be jumpy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Won't help you a bit to do that. By the time the coyote is close enough to see it, he should be belly up. If he's in a position to smell the bait (downwind), he should also already be belly up.

Baiting in most places, dead or alive, is illegal. Hunting over gut piles or that type of thing usually isn't.

The stuff you see about live bait, breaking rabbit's legs, tying them to stakes, nailing out cats, etc., are made by slob "hunters" looking to increase their odds any way they can, and to offset their lack of hunting knowledge and skill. They are people looking for furry, reactionary targets, and not overly interested in ethics or the satisfaction of the hunt itself.

This usually raises the hackles quick on ethical hunters, and the subsequent discussion can get pretty heated. Glad to see you just had an honest and innocent question, and took the answer well. It is just that most of us consider ourselves highly ethical hunters, and hate to give the PETA types ammo (slob hunters and cruelty to animals) to use against us.

A mechanical decoy might be what you're looking for. Many use them with success. Keeps the coyote's attention away from you, and gives them a little visual stimulus to go along with what they're hearing.

You'll have to take your lumps (initial lack of success), but if you keep at it and work hard, they will come eventually.
 
Animals that come top bait do so because thay have basicly been trained to. As is the case with dead piles. They know that the farmers place their dead in this location and that there will usually be food there because of that. Same with baiting bears. Usually when baiting bears, you start to bait several days if not weeks before you intend to hunt. Part of this reason is to condition the bears. Get them use to the Idea that there is always food at this location which in turn will bring them in on a more regular basis. Get my drift?

Using a fresh killed rabbit as bait could mean many hours if not days of waiting for the coyotes to find said rabbit and t hen hope you happen to be there and not busted when they do show. Artificial decoys , calling , and trapping if legal are much more effective.
 
I live trap rabbits in my yard. I let them go at my dads house because my daughter is a future PETA rep. I have another one I caught today in my other live trap.

Hammer
 
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Ok the other day I missed my first yote.
Should I have used that rabbit on my hunt?



I don't see how using a rabbit would've helped you hit that yote, Unless the rabbit was going to shoot him for you. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
But seriously, If you called him into range, You were doing something right. I think alot of people miss their first called in yote, I know I did.
Trust me, you don't need a live decoy. When I called in my first yote, I had forgot to bring my decoy. So I found a white plastic sack and filled it with rocks. The yote came in looking around, and then I watched him spot the sack. He just locked onto it and ran straight for it. Then I missed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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It is not the rabbit part of your plan that I have a problem with, it is the "live" part.



Come on now Redfrog, what good is "dead" bait, really? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif I mean all fishing lure company's try and make their lures more life like, I say if you are gonna bait, use live at least. Now with that being said, a human can be live bait, especially hunting bears and mountain lions. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Seriously, there are better methods of luring in coyotes with the use of decoys. I realize that rabbits multiply fast, but just get a decoy, it is only a one time fee. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Nailing a cat to a piece of plywood would get you arrested any place I know.



Yeah, your right, but a man can dream.
 
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I live trap rabbits in my yard. I let them go at my dads house because my daughter is a future PETA rep. I have another one I caught today in my other live trap.

Hammer



Where do you live and I have two words for you: Rabbit Dumplings
 
Hell I missed my last yote called in too. Just keep calling like you obviously did the other day and you'll call in another coyote. I also think you ought to work on your "future PETA rep" daughter.
 
She is 8 years old and the only animal she will eat is pork.

I bought her all kinds of furs to play with and she does. I am going to make a yote hat for her when I get one. Went ou tonight to a new spot and nothing.

Thanks and like the humor on this string.

Hammer
 


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