Night Force Optics for coyotes?

Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: fw707
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Dat's NICE !!
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Yes it is. Jeff keeps trying to lure me over to the mil a.k.a. the dark side.
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Originally Posted By: WyFoxI've got one on my yote rifle and like it a lot, I went with the G7 5-22x50 it has a capped windage turret, BDC reticle, and a BDC load specific turret. Def recommend the 50mm no need for 56mm the scopes are huge and heavy compared to leupold, very robust and bomb proof scope though.

Yes I have to agree a 56mm isn't needed, but I got this sweet thing. 3.5-15x56mm NP1 with zs waiting to go on my 20 BR when it gets done in a few months.
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I have 5 of em. Great scopes. Very tough and they do exactly what they are supposed to do. Every time. I wouldn't go over the 5.5x22 if it was me on their current models. I would focus on the 2.5-10 or the 3.5-15. The 2.5-10 has no parallax adj. They only thing that ever steers me away from NF is the price. I think they are well worth their money though. Lupy scopes aren't bad either. From a earlier question about NF. The new FFP model coming out in 5-25 is called the B.E.A.S.T. They have a slightly less advanced SFP to coming out. THe beast is unlike any other scope made so far. My list of scopes I trust are.....I only use bushnell, lupy, and NF. IF I was needing a scope for 1k$ or less I look into the bush or lupy, and I don;t mean the cheap bushnells. I only use the elite models or the HDMR. I pretty much trust all the lupeys. Every model I have ever owned has worked fine. On my yote rifle I have the simple VX-2x40 3-9. Nothing special at all but it tracks when needed to, has always held zero, it's plenty clear and the price didn't break me. If I'm gonna be able to spend 800$ on a scope I feel I might as well go ahead and spend the rest for a NF. They will hold their value well and more importantly, it is a piece of equipment you can trust and thats what really matters. Good luck
 
Originally Posted By: BOBTAILS

Yes I have to agree a 56mm isn't needed,

got one for ya... film crew came out here the end of Oct, we made a set 15 min before dark... NOT before sundown, BUT before it was too DARK to film good footage... wouldn't ya know it, a dog pops up on a ridge about 250-300yds west of us, it was NOT on my side, so I told the shooter on my left, "take him"... his reply, " can you see him good in your scope", my reply, "yes"... his reply, go ahead and take him then. No second guesses, no hesitations, I killed the dog where he stood... after all was said and done, I asked to look through his XXXXX scope... lets just say, EVERY bit of that extra 6mm was worth it... every NF I have has a 56mm obj. some may not like it, or need it... but I don't agree, "it isn't needed."
 
Yep, money is the only thing holding me back from more NF scopes as well. And, yep, the dings do hurt for sure.

I agree that 5.5-22 (I have it in the 56mm on my LR varmint rig.) is overkill for coyotes. I would go with the Field of View of the 3.5-15X50 or better yet the 2.5-10 for my calling rifle. And, boy, would I like to! You won't be disappointed in a NF.
 
Guys,
Thanks for all the input..... I have never put much thought into a 2.5-10, maybe its the "MAN" in me thinking bigger is better. I guess i need to start thinking about FOV before full value.

SKINNY - Are you running your 56mm on an AR platform or long gun?

What are you guys running for rings?

I dont want to sound like i am drinking the "KoolAid" here, but dose any one run LaRue QD systems?

I just put an American Defence on my AR and really think its the "Cats Meow", the disadvantage is that my model only comes in High/Xtra high and my 56mm Leupold VX3L looks ridiculous.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
Originally Posted By: chadmichener

SKINNEY - Are you running your 56mm on an AR platform or long gun?

What are you guys running for rings?


3.5-15X56 NP-R1 on my 22-250 Match custom bolt gun,
5.5-22X56 NP-R2 on my Armalite Super SASS
8-32X56 NP-R1 on my 260Rem custom bolt gun
12-42X56 NP-R2 on my MK11 MOD0

on all my bolts I'm running Badger or Nightforce Ti rings...
on my AR-10/SR-25's I run a unimount... best to have a customizable stock so you can get a proper cheek weld by adjusting the elevation.
 
I have the Larue QD on my calling AR. Nice mount but I don't trust anything completely when mounting and unmounting the scope. It's close but I still check my zero at 200 to make sure I'm right on.
 
If you decide to buy one you won't be sorry. Like others have said, "they hold their value".

I put that smaller scope on my Grendel because I thought I'd give it a try. Now if I don't like it, I'll switch to one of my varmint rigged NF scopes

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This the ranging type of bracket that I had mentioned before. From line to line is 18", the circles are 9". A prairie dog standing is about 9", and a deer back to brisket is about 18" .

I still carry a range finder with me [beeep].....
 
On all my bolt guns I have NF Ti or seekins rings. I did have a larue QD mount and think its the best in the business. Now that my luepold on my AR is 1" I have switched mounts until a pick up a larue 1" mount.
 
Not that I have a NF, but I just recently installed a really nice 6.5x20 44mm on my coyote gun, and I have allready taken the scope off the gun, yea it's a great scope, and for long distance coyotes, and praire dogs it's great, but seems for me that i call coyotes in too close for the scope.
I'm hunting in big wide open country, but the dogs still come into 30 or 40 yards and are running at that. Yes some of the shots are 100+ yards, but the majority are not. I would get a scope starting out with 3x.

Good luck
 
Okay, I guess I will be the ahole seeing that nobody else is volunteering for the job. First off, when it comes to optics. I would much rather put the money in high dollar binoculars, or spotting scopes. But that is just a personal preference of mine. However, although just my opinion about scopes. It is based on approximately 47 years of hunting. And over those 47 years. We started out with the old redfields when they were made well. And then switched to Burris, when the company split up. So basically everything we own is between 47 and 37 years old. And throughout those years never had a problem with fogging, or accuracy issues. Basically a pretty clear scope also. Also, each year prior to hunting when we would shoot them to site in, very little Zero problems. Although each year for the last several it appears that one by one, they are giving up the ghost. The problem being with the turrits apparently being completely wore out. This being said, after contacting the companies. Both redfield and Burris they will stand behind their lifetime warranty. What more could a guy ask for? Also note worthy is I feel that if I did my part. These scopes also shot as well as the guns that they were mounted on were capable of shooting. This being said, I would just like to ask why would somebody spend four to five times more for something. I mean after all, even if we all lived till we are 90. In reality, we could buy two scopes and have $800 invested versus $2000 for one that might last 90 years. In closing I would like to say unless it is an egotistical thing. I just don't understand personally. Because I can tell you one thing. Whether it is a custom-made superexpensive gun or a nightforce scope or Schmidt and bendor. You will still have to do your part! And if you can't do that. It doesn't make any difference what combination you put together. AS it will not do it for you.

Take care, Willie
 
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Willie, it sounds like your scopes have worked out great for you!
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But if you had "very little Zero problems", how did you wear out the turrets?


Originally Posted By: wdenikeAlso, each year prior to hunting when we would shoot them to site in, very little Zero problems. Although each year for the last several it appears that one by one, they are giving up the ghost. The problem being with the turrits apparently being completely wore out.

Take care, Willie
 
Well, I have to be honest with you. All of the guns were wooden stocks. And about three quarters of those years were in the Northeast, where there is quite a change in humidity from year to year. That being said, there does seem to be moderate changes from year to year, a click one way or the other. That being said, the ones that we are currently having problems with on a year-to-year basis lately are the ones with friction adjustments. In other words, there is no audible click metal to metal, or plastic to plastic in the supercheap scopes. Although I am no wizard about building scopes. I believe through the years. Whatever was used to create the friction to hold the turret where it is set. Appears to dry rot or something as there isn't much friction, therefore losing accuracy. Absolute shot to shot inconsistency. One even wandered as much as 4 feet. But my point is, after 35 to 47 years, and I can't even remember the price back then, I don't think a person could get hurt very much in the midrange price's of today.

Take care, Willie
 
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I too am looking at one, but price. Pay once cry once. Just not sure which power. 3.5-15 or 5-20 want long range ability but my 6-20 is hard to track fast moving dogs@ 40 yds. What y'all think.
 
Originally Posted By: 87predatorcontrol Pay once cry once.
Amen.
I learned this a while ago... buy once, cry once... and You GET what you pay for... that's the dang truth!!!
 
Willie,
I am sorry to disagree with you but I do. I remember the days when a red field was the scope of choice. Scopes have come a LONG ways since the 60's. While not everyone can afford to buy a scope like this, please don't knock the scopes. I never had looked thru one until I looked thru a customers. After that I knew I wanted one. It took me two years to save up for my first one. I have also looked thru other top end scopes as well, but I prefer the NF scopes due to their reliability and dependability.

I will continue to buy them and replace the older scopes that I do have. My old Parker and Hale 30-06 would be awfully nice with a newer scope than the old Bushnell that sits on her now.
 
Hey, no problem. I was just simply stating that it took somewhere between 35 and 47 years for anything to go wrong with a midrange scope. And I didn't make the statement blindly as far as any big difference in the heavy hitter scopes. My son inlaw(son) has a night force in 6.5 to 30 power on a 50 Cal Barrett, a Leopold Mark 4 mounted on a cz 300 Remington ultra mag from their custom shop that he wouldn't care if you drug the scope behind the pickup. And a cz varmint 204 with the kevalar stock with a 6500 elite mounted on it, which he likes the most. So we do get to shoot some of the more elites. But he is slowly starting to feel the same way that I do. In fact, my daughter bought him a Cooper arms 25-06 for Christmas and I am quite sure he's going to put one of the higher-end vortex scopes on it. Even he is slowly stepping down the food chain as far as scopes go. And it doesn't have anything to do with not being able to afford them. Just seeing is believing. Just thought I might let some people know that it doesn't necessarily mean you have to spend all that money to get something good. Likewise, if somebody can afford to do it. And that's what they like. That's probably what they should do also. If you're having fun. I guess that's all accounts.

Take care, Willie
 
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