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varminter .223 said:
Lights are for picking up brass you can't find with your handheld thermal and checking to see if the coyote you killed was male or female and how worn his or here teeth are. Coyotes won't even tolerate an ir glow much less a light especially one that is all of a sudden flipped on.
I'm not sure why guys want the lrf on the scanner either. If it's on the weapon mounted thermal there is no need to switch back and forth on moving critters.
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Have you ever watched the Night Crew on YouTube?
 
I wonder if it’s because it’s from an elevated position?
I know down here, you hit anything with a white light from the ground or drivers seat of the truck and it’s gone.
 
Good point, and the same thing happens here. I bet money that him and most of the big Internet video stars, target non pressured critters. Fact I bet it goes without say.
 
Oldcoyotetrapper said:
Good point, and the same thing happens here. I bet money that him and most of the big Internet video stars, target non pressured critters. Fact I bet it goes without say.
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Yeah, sorta like trapping untouched ground for the first time, lol. I look like a professional with some huge numbers the first week or two. Then the next week or so and all future times trapping that property becomes work again!!
 
Ok, I’d only seen them in their elevated hunting rig.
I’ve not wanted to spook deer before climbing down in the evenings and tried shining my light to scare them off and they pay it no attention. Climb down undetected and turn it on and they’re gone!
 
Aren't they always way hunting way south like Texas?
I can tell you lights won't cut it here. Ive heard it working just outside of cities where there are lights all over in the back ground but I've never seen a light work. I certainly can't see it work by just flipping it on. I'd much rather have cheaper thermal 384 than a light. The coyotes we hunt won't even tolerate an IR.
 
I have tried white,red and green lights here. If you have one coming from way off and can get a red light using the bottom edge of the beam on them using a light is possible. If hunting near a full moon and turn the light on to shoot, they almost always run from the light. About a third of coyote reacted (looked, moved) when the IR light hit them. I adjusted for it by bringing the IR beam down on them, any reaction, I would lift back up for a few seconds and try again. Some coyote it took several reps until they ignored the IR. Main reason I went thermal both for scanning and shooting. During full moon(3-4 nights before) I sit in shadows and don't use the scanner as I want to move less/slower. This is possible on snow and minimal cloud cover with 70%+ moon. Helps your eyes a bunch if you don't use any light for walking, for me it can take 10 minutes for my eyes to adjust. I run my screen backlight as low as possible.
 
varminter .223 said:
Aren't they always way hunting way south like Texas?
I can tell you lights won't cut it here. Ive heard it working just outside of cities where there are lights all over in the back ground but I've never seen a light work. I certainly can't see it work by just flipping it on. I'd much rather have cheaper thermal 384 than a light. The coyotes we hunt won't even tolerate an IR.
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Not sure. Wherever they are it's pretty open. In the episode I mentioned they compare thermal (they also use thermal) to using the lights. It's actually a pretty good episode. One big thing that they "admit" with using lights like they do is that it's very hard to do solo.
 
I will chime in about the LRF. Sometimes I am scanning with my accolade binoculars, and my partner has the Coyote in his thermal scope, which doesn’t have an LRF. I whisper to him the distance on the coyote.

I do have three thermal scopes, and all of them have built-in LRF. So if I am scanning, and my partners pulsar does not have LRF, I tell him the distance.

I guess if you were hunting by You really would need an LRF on a thermal monocular use for scanning.
 
When they’re scanning with lights in trucks the lights are always on. They keep the light halo on the coyotes till they slowly drop it down to shoot. That way the coyote doesn’t see the truck. The lights stay on all the time.
 
Why don't you give an idea of what you can spend, that would give guys better idea for idea's. Bino's are more pricy and a monocular would give a lot more choices. Also what kind of terrain and ranges are you dealing with and shooting at?
 
I live in the PNW so wooded canyons brush choked roads hills you name it could be anywhere from 5 yards to 500 and then I go to the east side of Washington and hunt more fields open rolling terrain same anywhere from 100 to 500 yards price kind of depends on what I’m buying would rather not be in the $5,000 to $10,000 range more in the $1000 to 3,000 but don’t want to buy junk would rather buy once cry once
 
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