Nightforce vs. Leupold Mark 4

Can't comment on comparing the two but Cabellas had a decent sell on all of their scopes. The monarchs Nikon were priced well. Certain Leupolds were marked down as much as $75.00. Worth looking into hope you find a good one. I can't see you going wrong with either one.
 
Can't comment on comparing the two but Cabellas had a decent sell on all of their scopes. The monarchs Nikon were priced well. Certain Leupolds were marked down as much as $75.00. Worth looking into hope you find a good one. I can't see you going wrong with either one. I would e-mail Furhunter he is extremely knowledgeble on the optics!
 
I have owned both and used both extensively, if I was going to the sandbox to shoot talibans I would take the NF, if I was going on a critter hunt with opportunity to get repairs done if needed- I would buy two Leupolds. being a shooter in all light conditions I would not spend the extra money on the illumination reticles either. In my opinion they rob to much of your objective light. So I would go with a target or a MK4 Leupold- or both over the NF. Unless I competed in serious tact matches with a lot of money or lives on the line. This should draw a lot of thread. There are a couple tactical web sites out there, LE and Mil types- who will go NF over Leu every time, but they have a different purpose. JHG
 
shawn carlock, who has won the national sniper competition too many times to count says this, yes nightforce is better, but if you never own a NF and use a loopy mark 4, you'll never miss not owning a NF.
I use loopy mark 4's with no complaints, would buy a NF but you can't deal on them. NF controls the pricing too much.
RR
 
What would be the main difference between the basic Mark-4 and VX-III, other than turrent style, mil-dot and increase of price between the two?
 
Have had a half dozen mark 4's, and about a dozen vx-3's. Even with a 30mm vx-3, it always seemed like the mk4's provided longer viewing in lower light conditions. I'd guess the mk4's have a tougher tube also, they were heavier than the vx-3's. Recently sold them all, to outfit several rifles with cheaper scopes for the time being. Plan on getting a nightforce in the next year, to top off a nice bolt gun.
 
Bitten by the nightforce bug........

When i shoot my pss .223 w/ leupold optics it`s like watching a 1950`s movie........

I`m sure the newer leupolds are much better...but i`m still not going to find out!!!!!!!!!
 
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Have had a half dozen mark 4's, and about a dozen vx-3's. Even with a 30mm vx-3, it always seemed like the mk4's provided longer viewing in lower light conditions. I'd guess the mk4's have a tougher tube also, they were heavier than the vx-3's.



The mk4's do have a thicker tube than the vx-3's but the glass and glass coatings are exactly the same (per Leupy tech. rep.). The mk4's also have a double spring erector, whereas the vx-3's have a single spring.
 
Like I have said before. I have looked through just about all the models of the long range NF's, each one had this blue tint. The color dosn't appear as realistic as my Leupold VX-III. Yes the image is slightly sharper, but not $600 bucks more. I would rather have a better color rendition on my hunting scope than a slight resolution edge. Tracking wise no problems with the Leupold, I crank on my turrents quite a bit. I don't need an overkill tactical styled scope, cause all I'm doing is hunting and punching targets. Like that other guy said on snipers hide, some people just feel compelled to own a certain brand, kinda like Nike or something. That's cool, but I know its not worth it to me.
 
The word value is rarely used in considering optics that run from the 1000 bones and up range. I have several high end scopes and never thought of value when I purchased them. If you can afford to drop the coin it takes to get either, it boils down to a simple "which one do I want the most"

FWIW an example on value.
My NXS 5.5x22 is an awesome scope plain and simple. I also have 3 other scopes, each cost 2/3rds of the NF (1000 bones) and another that cost half as much as the NF (750) all are just as clear, and every bit reliable as the NF. I can say I doubt they are as tough (tough being abuse....black ops mission tough!) but the prairie dog towns arnt too hard on equipment. Thats value, the most bang for your buck.
 
Nobody has addressed the real issue. If you have to meet a weight class, you have to go Leupold, Period.
If you don't have to weigh in, the Nightforce is better.

Jack
 
A Bushnell Elite 3200 is about twice the price of a Bushnell Trophy. Does that make it twice as good a scope?? A Bushnell 4200 series scope is 3x the price of a Trophy. Is it 3X better??? Says who? Just food for thought, so bear with me...

"Value" and "bang for your buck" are very subjective terms. If a Leupold Mark IV were a "better" scope than a NXS, it simply would cost more new and fetch more used on the open market. That's how these things work. Look on any shooting site's Classifieds and see what used Mark IVs are going for compared to used NXS' and take note of how long each take to sell...

It's also tough to compare the two, based on what each company offers. Reticle designs & illumination, glass quality, turrets, zero stops...etc, are not created equal. IMHO, NXS beats Mark IV handily in all categories. Ultimately its up to you (the buyer) to decide what you want from your scope and what each feature is worth to you...

In the upper tier of optics, NXS probably offers the most "bang for the buck", hence their popularity. Compare a $1500 NXS to a $3000 S&B and you'll see the value inherent in a Nightforce more clearly...
 
NF, hands down. They're the best bang for the buck out there, IMO.

If you can find "used" ones, you can score some [beeep] good deals on the net. Brad Arnett picked one up this year off this forum for $900. Talk about a deal.

I just picked up a 5.5-22 NPR1 and love it.
 
I know of a fellow who was comparing Leupold and Nikon, at dusk, looking down a dimly lit street, trying to sort out which was better. It kind of had him leaning to Leupold, but then a Nightforce was introduced into the test, and it was all over. Not only could he see the license plate on a vehicle blocks away, but at the same power as the others, he could read it. Resolution. Makes me think I need their new, lighter models, a 2.5-10 x 32.
 
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I Makes me think I need their new, lighter models, a 2.5-10 x 32.



Yes you do, Onion!
I got one with the exposed zero stops & NP-R2. Took a couple minutes to get the zero stops set up how I wanted. After that, I went on a turret spinning shooting spree to 600yds, back & forth & in-between, and it didn't miss a beat...

It is just a scaled down version of his bigger brothers...AWESOME!
 
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NF, hands down. They're the best bang for the buck out there, IMO.

If you can find "used" ones, you can score some [beeep] good deals on the net. Brad Arnett picked one up this year off this forum for $900. Talk about a deal.

I just picked up a 5.5-22 NPR1 and love it.




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If you are going to shoot a nightforce make sure you are putting it on a very accurate rifle or you might be wasting your time and money.They are extremely rugged and repeatable.I have one I sighted in 6 years ago and have carried and hauled it all over the country at temps as cold as -71 centigrade at 45000 feet in an aircraft and never ever had to adjust it.May not be as good as Schmidt and Bender but may be even better.
 


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