Furhunter
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Originally Posted By: Anton ChigurhOriginally Posted By: FurhunterOriginally Posted By: Str8ShooterGreat post, I've been looking through more scopes than I care to admit... trying to find a great match for my Tikka T3 lite 22-250. Do you think that the VX-3 and VX-R are really in the same category optically? I've heard that the VX-R is closer to the VX-2 and in my experience it appears to be true.
I think the VX-R is kinda like a hybrid between the two but leans closer to the VX-3 than the VX-2. For instance, you won't find a VX-2 that has a 30mm tube. I think the glass is really, really close to the VX-3. I've had the time to look them over real well and that VX-R is a nice scope for the money. I think a 4-12 with CDS dials would be tough to beat on that 250 of yours.
I have been researching VX-R lately. On paper it would seem they are the perfect 3-9 scope for all around shooting/predator hunting that I do.
I know you have handled these and many other scopes, how do you like the thicker reticle on the Mark AR/VXr scopes? I talked to a tech at leupold this week, and he said the reason the TMR reticles are thicker in these lines is that they are made from fiber optic wire (for the illumination), and can only be so thin. I like my Mark AR 3-9 for hunting, but the reticle cover a 1" dot completely at 100 and makes shooting tight groups difficult. I'm gonna have to switch scopes on my AR to do load development. I was recently considering a VXR for a bolt gun, but decided against one because of the reticle. I've read the fire dot duplex reticles are thicker than the etched vx3 duplex as well.
Anton,
The 2 VX-R scopes I had here were a firedot 4 reticle and the regular firedot duplex. They were on the thicker side but didn't seem quite as thick as the TMR. Maybe it was the horizontal dashes on the TMR reticle that made it seem thicker. I can't say I looked at them side by side, just going from memory on the VX R compared to he TMR I have here right now. I did compare the 4-12 VX-R to the 4.5-14 VX-3 that had a varmint hunters reticle and that where I based my above comment on the glass in the R.
I don't mind the thicker reticle in the those scopes as I consider them a hunting type of scope. I wouldn't hesitate to use one on a hunting rifle.
Sure you will benefit more load testing with a more powerful scope. Have you considered having a dedicated load developement scope? It doesn't have to expensive, just something with enough magnification to be useful and something you can trust.
I think the VX-R is kinda like a hybrid between the two but leans closer to the VX-3 than the VX-2. For instance, you won't find a VX-2 that has a 30mm tube. I think the glass is really, really close to the VX-3. I've had the time to look them over real well and that VX-R is a nice scope for the money. I think a 4-12 with CDS dials would be tough to beat on that 250 of yours.
I have been researching VX-R lately. On paper it would seem they are the perfect 3-9 scope for all around shooting/predator hunting that I do.
I know you have handled these and many other scopes, how do you like the thicker reticle on the Mark AR/VXr scopes? I talked to a tech at leupold this week, and he said the reason the TMR reticles are thicker in these lines is that they are made from fiber optic wire (for the illumination), and can only be so thin. I like my Mark AR 3-9 for hunting, but the reticle cover a 1" dot completely at 100 and makes shooting tight groups difficult. I'm gonna have to switch scopes on my AR to do load development. I was recently considering a VXR for a bolt gun, but decided against one because of the reticle. I've read the fire dot duplex reticles are thicker than the etched vx3 duplex as well.
Anton,
The 2 VX-R scopes I had here were a firedot 4 reticle and the regular firedot duplex. They were on the thicker side but didn't seem quite as thick as the TMR. Maybe it was the horizontal dashes on the TMR reticle that made it seem thicker. I can't say I looked at them side by side, just going from memory on the VX R compared to he TMR I have here right now. I did compare the 4-12 VX-R to the 4.5-14 VX-3 that had a varmint hunters reticle and that where I based my above comment on the glass in the R.
I don't mind the thicker reticle in the those scopes as I consider them a hunting type of scope. I wouldn't hesitate to use one on a hunting rifle.
Sure you will benefit more load testing with a more powerful scope. Have you considered having a dedicated load developement scope? It doesn't have to expensive, just something with enough magnification to be useful and something you can trust.