Northern Utah Rancher looking for coyote hunters!

Okay, this probably goes without saying that I agree that guided hunts have their place. When I provide a guided hunt, I offer instruction to those who request it. Because of my experience, I can shorten that learning curve significantly for new callers. I learned how to hunt coyotes from the school of hard knocks which included a lot of mistakes, trial and error. Granted, that's the best way to learn but it's also the longest method known to man. If a guide or mentor can point out your weaknesses and help you to improve upon them, you're ahead of the game. If you don't know what your doing poorly, it takes a long time to figure that out cause the quarry you're pursuing sure won't tell you. More often than not, you don't even know you're making mistakes. You just think the coyotes aren't there, or they're educated, or the moon phase was wrong or whatever excuses we all come up with. I've never paid someone to change my oil, but is there a place for it? Absolutely! I've never paid someone to mow my lawn, but there's a place for that too. Guided hunts definately have a place too.

The reason I said that the ad sounded fishy, I've been in this game a long time. I've made hundreds of contacts with ranchers and farmers and have gained access to nearly 400,000 acres in Box Elder County alone. I have never in my life met a rancher, especially a cattle rancher, who didn't know who to call to get rid of some problem coyotes. There are dozens of deperdation programs available to Utah ranchers which include goverment and private assistance for problem coyotes. I have a hard time believing that this particular rancher had to resort to placing a personal ad for someone to pay him to shoot his coyotes. It just doesn't add up. There's a big piece of the puzzle missing for me and without that piece, the puzzle doesn't look right.

I hope I made a little sense and I wish everyone good calling!

Tom Austin

 
Originally Posted By: DAAWhat a joke... I wouldn't take that rancher and his buddies out for a day if he paid ME $175...

- DAA

Well I would, but I'm easy. Where do I sign up?
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Quote:I have never in my life met a rancher, especially a cattle rancher, who didn't know who to call to get rid of some problem coyotes.

OK, that is a good point.

Honestly, I get the impression that the rancher is interested in the sport, and he isn't just looking to get his problem coyotes taken care of. Maybe for whatever reason he didn't feel comfortable asking the people he does know to show him how it is done. (Like maybe he doesn't want them thinking he is putting them out of a job.) Or maybe he did ask them and they didn't help. I bet he has tried making some stands and hasn't had a lot of success and just feels like he could benefit from some instruction.

Maybe that is why it is coming across as "fishy" to some of you. To me, I think it was a great idea to place the ad. It gives some hunter the chance to hunt on his land, and he gets the benefit of learning from him.

Why do people keep saying the hunter has to pay? The ad says "Free."
 
Originally Posted By: doggin coyotes
DAA said:
Well I would, but I'm easy. Where do I sign up?
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I seriously would not. I've turned down almost twice that much to take somebody I don't know out, for a day. Of course, the guys offering me the money were expecting me to provide the land, too, so not exactly apples to apples. But, honestly, my hunting time is way more valuable to me than that. Nobody would be willing to pay what it would take to get me to take a stranger out and spend a day of my life, a day I could have spent hunting with my regular partner, playing wet nurse for some greenhorn I never met before. I don't need the money and life is way too short for that. Noooooo Thanks! If I'm willing to spend a day hunting with someone, there ain't gonna be any money involved...

- DAA
 
Seems to me if he got rid of a few coyotes he would be grateful not be charging someone. Even if he did stipulate he wanted to go just my .02
 
OK I'll take that rancher for 500.00 per day plus EXPENSES!
For me I have never ask a rancher to hunt and been turned down or ask to pay. I hope those days are not over.
 
Why do people keep saying the hunter has to pay? The ad says "Free."

Becaues thr rancher was contacted face to face and he wanted $175.00 to let you take him coyote hunting with you

do you always believe what you read?
 
They aerial gun the Crap out of Box Elder County. My friend was the DWR depredation and mitigation specialist in Box Elder County a few years ago. He told me the numbers of coyotes that are gunned and M-44 in Box Elder County and it blew my mind. I used to hunt that corner of the state a lot and killed some coyotes there but it is no nirvana. The whole county is BLM and private checkered and the ranchers are who get all the coyotes killed by US Wildlife Services.

I would pay that much to hunt some of the Ranchers on the east side of the Wasatch.
 
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