Nosler Bts real spotty on deer

Here's a 200gr accubond and a 200gr Bt I recovered from two different mule deer that where both shot around 160-200yd. The accubond broke the hip and traveled down the spine and deflecter down though the vital ending up stuck in a rib, The BT was put right behind the shoulder and traveled though the vitals and ended up just under the skin on the opposite side about 8" up the neck.

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I shot a Corsican Ram a couple of weeks ago with my 25 WSSM with 117 BSTs. One shot at 95 yards did him in. The bullet never exited. I'll try to remember to post a pic of it tonight.
 
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The closer the ranges the worst the bts are.The are real bad about ruining meat also.


Actually, the faster the terminal velocity the worse they get....but I know what you meant /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The closest I've seen my handloads for this .270win (max loads by the way) was at 75yds my son taking his first buck. The round hit hard and drove all the way through. There was an instantaneous pool of blood the size of a pizza on the ground and the tall grass was spray painted the 50yds he ran. Terminal velocity was near the 3000fps recommended factory max of Nosler.

Ballistic Tips need to be placed in the heart lung area in the "golden triangle", you guys. Any other place is just taking chances and will ruin alot of meat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
I shot a 240 lb 10 pt buck in Alabama with a 270 loaded with 130g Ballistic tips. He was facing me on level ground 15 yards away. The bullet broke his shoulder and traveled the length of the body to exit the hip after breaking it. The big buck plowed the ground with his nose till his horns got hunt in a bunch of vines which stopped him. He was running from a pack of wild dogs, we shot 3 of them also.
 
Interestingly enough, I talked to a guy last night that works for one of the larger game processing outfits here. He's seen first hand what bullets hold up and what ones don't. Talking to the hunters and findout what they were using and then opening the deer up he's found that the Nosler BT's will open up and not even penetrate a rib sometimes. One deer had 3 shots within 4" that litterally just blew up once they hit the ribs and seperated the skin on a 12-16" circle. He's seen the best performance with the Hornady SST's/Interlocks, NOS. Partitions, Barnes TSX and Scirocco's.
 
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Ballistic Tips need to be placed in the heart lung area in the "golden triangle", you guys. Any other place is just taking chances and will ruin alot of meat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif



+10 on that, I have been using NBTS on deer since their arrival on the market in the early 90's.. I have experienced phenomenol performance from them. It is all about shot placement. I am of the opinion you shoot a deer in the keister with any bullet, you'll get meat damage, yes some bullets may cause more damage than others due to their construction. But why would one aim for the meaty area? Cant place it in the "Golden Triangle"? Dont take the shot then.. And yes, I have made my share of bad shots in the past and now do my best to take the best shot I can. If I cant make it, I wont take it.. And I too, get the results that the Perferator gets...

So what it really boils down to is shot placement and bullet selection applicable for the game pursued.

Nodak
 
No so a bullet placed in the golden triangle with a 270,280,30-06 will cause alot more blood shot meat than one hit with a lesser velocity like a 358 win for example
This I know is fact
I used a 280 for a lot of years and switched over to a 358 and let me tell ya no blood shot meat and they die a lot faster (closer ) than one hit with any of the others I have mentioned
bts are fine bullets as log as you have a clear path to the target but if you hit a twig or something similar they open up and do not make the target
Yes I have had that happen as well and that was a failure I will not have
 
if a bullet hits a twig, doesn't matter what caliber, if it makes it to the target, its pure luck, even the 375 H&H is suseptable to deflection if it hits brush.
RR
 
One thing Id like to add is that Nosler did change the design of the BT in the late 90s. The early ones did have issues with blow up. Then they took the solid base design and just added the tip. The old design had a thin jacket all the way down and no solid base. I did have several failures with the early design but if you use heavyy for caliber BTs and place the shot in the boiler room, failure should no longer be an issue. I have shot end to end on some very large critters using the ,225 grain BT in 35 Whelen. Too bad they discontinued it in favor of the accubond.
 
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