NRA Chief: 2012 Election ‘Most Dangerous in Our Lifetime’
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2012 Election ‘Most Dangerous in Our Lifetime
Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, warns that President Barack Obama intends to "destroy the Second Amendment" during his second term and "end our freedom forever."
LaPierre delivered a rousing speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February, and the text of his speech has been published in the April issue of "America’s 1st Freedom," the official journal of the NRA.
Asserting that the Second Amendment is the "heart and soul" of America, LaPierre says: "Our soul is at stake in this election. This campaign is a fight for our country, our values, and the freedom we believe in.
"All of our Second Amendment liberty, all of the rights we’ve worked so hard to defend, all of what we know is good and right about America — all of it could be lost if Barack Obama is re-elected."
LaPierre predicts that on the campaign trail Obama will point out to voters that he has not pursued an anti-gun agenda during his first term, but that was a "political calculation" aimed at NRA supporters and gun owners who might oppose him in his re-election bid.
Obama’s strategy, he says, is to "get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearm freedom. Erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and excise it from the U.S. Constitution."
During his second term Obama would likely appoint from one to three Supreme Court justices, and three more liberal justices will mean "the end of our freedom forever," LaPierre declares.
He concludes: "If you don’t remember anything else I say today, write this down: This is the most dangerous election in our lifetime. If Obama wins, we’ll go to our grave mourning the freedom we’ve lost.
"This is our time, our election to rise up and fight for our rights. We will defend our nation because we must. We will prevail!"
Zero's anti-gun agenda is a matter of record and he is most devious in his efforts. His favorite strategy during this term is, using his own words, "under the radar". He is an expert at skirting the constitution and circumventing congress. A second term will be disastrous. Remember his words to the Russians recently in Korea stating that he will be unfettered "after I am re-elected".
Quote:The following information was compiled from various sources.
Obama's Past record
1998-1999
Obama votes against a bill that specifically allows homeowners the right to use a gun in self-defense during a home invasion. The Illinois Governor vetoes the bill; Obama votes to uphold the veto.
In 1999, Obama proposes increasing Illinois firearm and ammunition excise taxes by 500 percent. (For example, a $55 tax on a $500 rifle would increase to $330.) The tax would thus change from a fee to fund wildlife preservation programs into a gun-punishing penalty.
2000
Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense. Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007
2002-2003
Obama votes to make a criminal out of a homeowner who used a gun in his own defense in his own home. While a State Senator, Obama votes for a bill that would ban most hunting rifles, shotguns, and target rifles; the bill would also authorize the Illinois State Police to raid homes and forcibly confiscate banned guns.
Obama votes four times during his Illinois State Senate career against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of his home and family.
Obama votes, in 2003, for a bill that classifies most single-shot and double-barreled shotguns as "semi-automatic assault weapons" and bans them, along with hundreds of models of rifles and handguns. (Had the bill had passed, Illinois residents would have had 90 days to turn their guns in or face felony charges.)
2004
In 2004, Obama says he is "…consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry," and that he would back "federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement." [444]
In March, 2004, Obama votes to allow prosecution of citizens who use guns for self-defense in their own homes (SB 2165).
Obama proposes legislation prohibiting gun stores from operating within five miles of a school or a park; inasmuch as most communities have schools and parks scattered widely throughout their areas, the legislation would effectively ban gun stores.
Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent. (When I queried him about the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms."It wasn't until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.) Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007
2005
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:
Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005
Interviews and Debates with Obama
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?
A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
Obama: Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok
Q: You said recently, "I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.
Source: 2008 Politico pre-Potomac Primary interview Feb 11, 2008
Obama: Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing
Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?
A: I don't think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You've got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:
35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama's campaign said, "Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views."
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008
Obama: Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities
Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?
A: You know, when the massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we've had 34 Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part, there has been silence. We know what to do. We've got to enforce the gun laws that are on the books. We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those 30-some children in Chicago who've been shot as we do the children in Virginia Tech. That's a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don't have it right now.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007
Obama: Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturer's lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do we need to punish that man for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair. Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006
Obama: Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban
KEYES: [to Obama]: I am a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where the crook have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves. I guess that's good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes were broken into.
OBAMA: Let's be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.
Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004
Obama: Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998
Judge for yourself what needs to be done with this man in control of the World's Formerly Most Powerful and Free Nation.
Nathan Barton is writing this from a wonderful place in the West, which might be in the Black Hills of South Dakota or Wyoming, or might be in one of the Four Corners States. Exactly where it is, the breezes blow with the scent of liberty, and the sound of the pines or the pinions is the sound of freedom. For thousands of years, people have fought and died for the liberty that Americans in the great spaces of the West enjoy, and he writes these commentaries in the hopes that continued generations will be able to do so, until the end of Time. Visit the blog: The Gospel Sower
More of his agenda:
Congress vs. Pesident and the veto. That is only so much of the pie. You forget the Administrative Law state. Federal agencies, a part of the executive branch, pass federal regulations that have the force of law. See the Code of Federal Regulations. The EPA, Dept. of Energy, the DOJ, HS, ATF and the NLRB all have run amok and congress has proven incapable of reigning in their socialist agendas with their oversight responsibility. You don't think that the cabinet members and agency heads don't take their marching orders directly from the President. The President does not need congressional approval to encourage the EPA to propose rules outlawing lead bullets and shot. Congress had nothing to do with Fast and Furious, that was Eric Holder's brain child. And we have not yet discussed the Tsars and quite illegal recess appointments. Those are all end runs around congress. Obama is the biggest threat to the 2nd Amendment that has ever occupied the White House. He is smart enough to disquise this agenda and keep it at the Ad Law level. However, if you don't think they have an active anti-2nd Amendment agenda, you are a candidate for the sucker punch.
You really need to find out what your union bosses are up to.
This comes from "Labor Union Report".com
In 2008, most union bosses had to work hard to convince their union members to vote for Barack Hussein Obama. Despite the fact that the Machinists’ union boss Tom Buffenbarger considered Obama a “thespian” and “Janus, the two-faced Roman god of ancient times,” others union bosses like the SEIU’s Andy Stern were wholly on board the Obama bandwagon early on. One of them was the AFL-CIO’s Richard Trumka, who told union members that they were racists if they did not vote for Obama:
"There’s not a single, good reason for any worker—especially any union member—to vote against Barack Obama…And, there’s only one really, really bad reason to vote against Barack Obama and that’s because he’s not white."
After Obama’s April 2008 loose-tongue slip about Americans who “cling to guns or religion,” union bosses had to work doubly hard to convince those union members who do, in fact, cling to their guns that Barack Obama wasn’t pro-gun control (despite his record).
Across the country, union bosses fanned out to spread the message: Barack Obama WON’T Take Away Your Gun…
Were union members misled on Obama’s stance on gun control?
Back in March, BigGovernment’s John Lott, Jr. observed:
"The Obama administration has been a consistent opponent of gun ownership. It has enacted a ban on the importation of semiautomatic guns because: “The U.S. insisted that imports of the aging rifles could cause problems such as firearm accidents.” They have also tried imposing much more extensive reporting requirements on sales of long guns. However, possibly the biggest threat isObama’s nomination of Andrew Traver to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. There is also the Obama administration’s push for the U.N.’s Arms Trade Treaty and itscontinual inaccurate statements about the source of Mexico’s crime guns. In addition, President Obama’s appointments to the Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, are adamantly against any protection for individual ownership of guns. If one of the five justices in the majority of the Heller or McDonald cases were to die or retire, not only would further gains be prevented, but even those two precedents would be threatened."
Back in April, the Washington Post reported* an exchange that took place (presumably) at the White House:
"On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.
“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
It’s pretty clear that the Barack Obama has an agenda that involves restricting Americans’ Second Amendment rights. However, what is not clear is whether union bosses will try to mislead their members again by trying to convince their members that Obama is anything but pro-gun control.
Regards,
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2012 Election ‘Most Dangerous in Our Lifetime
Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, warns that President Barack Obama intends to "destroy the Second Amendment" during his second term and "end our freedom forever."
LaPierre delivered a rousing speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February, and the text of his speech has been published in the April issue of "America’s 1st Freedom," the official journal of the NRA.
Asserting that the Second Amendment is the "heart and soul" of America, LaPierre says: "Our soul is at stake in this election. This campaign is a fight for our country, our values, and the freedom we believe in.
"All of our Second Amendment liberty, all of the rights we’ve worked so hard to defend, all of what we know is good and right about America — all of it could be lost if Barack Obama is re-elected."
LaPierre predicts that on the campaign trail Obama will point out to voters that he has not pursued an anti-gun agenda during his first term, but that was a "political calculation" aimed at NRA supporters and gun owners who might oppose him in his re-election bid.
Obama’s strategy, he says, is to "get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearm freedom. Erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and excise it from the U.S. Constitution."
During his second term Obama would likely appoint from one to three Supreme Court justices, and three more liberal justices will mean "the end of our freedom forever," LaPierre declares.
He concludes: "If you don’t remember anything else I say today, write this down: This is the most dangerous election in our lifetime. If Obama wins, we’ll go to our grave mourning the freedom we’ve lost.
"This is our time, our election to rise up and fight for our rights. We will defend our nation because we must. We will prevail!"
Zero's anti-gun agenda is a matter of record and he is most devious in his efforts. His favorite strategy during this term is, using his own words, "under the radar". He is an expert at skirting the constitution and circumventing congress. A second term will be disastrous. Remember his words to the Russians recently in Korea stating that he will be unfettered "after I am re-elected".
Quote:The following information was compiled from various sources.
Obama's Past record
1998-1999
Obama votes against a bill that specifically allows homeowners the right to use a gun in self-defense during a home invasion. The Illinois Governor vetoes the bill; Obama votes to uphold the veto.
In 1999, Obama proposes increasing Illinois firearm and ammunition excise taxes by 500 percent. (For example, a $55 tax on a $500 rifle would increase to $330.) The tax would thus change from a fee to fund wildlife preservation programs into a gun-punishing penalty.
2000
Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense. Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007
2002-2003
Obama votes to make a criminal out of a homeowner who used a gun in his own defense in his own home. While a State Senator, Obama votes for a bill that would ban most hunting rifles, shotguns, and target rifles; the bill would also authorize the Illinois State Police to raid homes and forcibly confiscate banned guns.
Obama votes four times during his Illinois State Senate career against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of his home and family.
Obama votes, in 2003, for a bill that classifies most single-shot and double-barreled shotguns as "semi-automatic assault weapons" and bans them, along with hundreds of models of rifles and handguns. (Had the bill had passed, Illinois residents would have had 90 days to turn their guns in or face felony charges.)
2004
In 2004, Obama says he is "…consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry," and that he would back "federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement." [444]
In March, 2004, Obama votes to allow prosecution of citizens who use guns for self-defense in their own homes (SB 2165).
Obama proposes legislation prohibiting gun stores from operating within five miles of a school or a park; inasmuch as most communities have schools and parks scattered widely throughout their areas, the legislation would effectively ban gun stores.
Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent. (When I queried him about the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms."It wasn't until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.) Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007
2005
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:
Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005
Interviews and Debates with Obama
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?
A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
Obama: Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok
Q: You said recently, "I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.
Source: 2008 Politico pre-Potomac Primary interview Feb 11, 2008
Obama: Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing
Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?
A: I don't think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You've got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:
35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama's campaign said, "Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views."
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008
Obama: Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities
Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?
A: You know, when the massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we've had 34 Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part, there has been silence. We know what to do. We've got to enforce the gun laws that are on the books. We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those 30-some children in Chicago who've been shot as we do the children in Virginia Tech. That's a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don't have it right now.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007
Obama: Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturer's lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do we need to punish that man for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair. Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006
Obama: Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban
KEYES: [to Obama]: I am a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where the crook have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves. I guess that's good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes were broken into.
OBAMA: Let's be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.
Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004
Obama: Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998
Judge for yourself what needs to be done with this man in control of the World's Formerly Most Powerful and Free Nation.
Nathan Barton is writing this from a wonderful place in the West, which might be in the Black Hills of South Dakota or Wyoming, or might be in one of the Four Corners States. Exactly where it is, the breezes blow with the scent of liberty, and the sound of the pines or the pinions is the sound of freedom. For thousands of years, people have fought and died for the liberty that Americans in the great spaces of the West enjoy, and he writes these commentaries in the hopes that continued generations will be able to do so, until the end of Time. Visit the blog: The Gospel Sower
More of his agenda:
Congress vs. Pesident and the veto. That is only so much of the pie. You forget the Administrative Law state. Federal agencies, a part of the executive branch, pass federal regulations that have the force of law. See the Code of Federal Regulations. The EPA, Dept. of Energy, the DOJ, HS, ATF and the NLRB all have run amok and congress has proven incapable of reigning in their socialist agendas with their oversight responsibility. You don't think that the cabinet members and agency heads don't take their marching orders directly from the President. The President does not need congressional approval to encourage the EPA to propose rules outlawing lead bullets and shot. Congress had nothing to do with Fast and Furious, that was Eric Holder's brain child. And we have not yet discussed the Tsars and quite illegal recess appointments. Those are all end runs around congress. Obama is the biggest threat to the 2nd Amendment that has ever occupied the White House. He is smart enough to disquise this agenda and keep it at the Ad Law level. However, if you don't think they have an active anti-2nd Amendment agenda, you are a candidate for the sucker punch.
You really need to find out what your union bosses are up to.
This comes from "Labor Union Report".com
In 2008, most union bosses had to work hard to convince their union members to vote for Barack Hussein Obama. Despite the fact that the Machinists’ union boss Tom Buffenbarger considered Obama a “thespian” and “Janus, the two-faced Roman god of ancient times,” others union bosses like the SEIU’s Andy Stern were wholly on board the Obama bandwagon early on. One of them was the AFL-CIO’s Richard Trumka, who told union members that they were racists if they did not vote for Obama:
"There’s not a single, good reason for any worker—especially any union member—to vote against Barack Obama…And, there’s only one really, really bad reason to vote against Barack Obama and that’s because he’s not white."
After Obama’s April 2008 loose-tongue slip about Americans who “cling to guns or religion,” union bosses had to work doubly hard to convince those union members who do, in fact, cling to their guns that Barack Obama wasn’t pro-gun control (despite his record).
Across the country, union bosses fanned out to spread the message: Barack Obama WON’T Take Away Your Gun…
Were union members misled on Obama’s stance on gun control?
Back in March, BigGovernment’s John Lott, Jr. observed:
"The Obama administration has been a consistent opponent of gun ownership. It has enacted a ban on the importation of semiautomatic guns because: “The U.S. insisted that imports of the aging rifles could cause problems such as firearm accidents.” They have also tried imposing much more extensive reporting requirements on sales of long guns. However, possibly the biggest threat isObama’s nomination of Andrew Traver to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. There is also the Obama administration’s push for the U.N.’s Arms Trade Treaty and itscontinual inaccurate statements about the source of Mexico’s crime guns. In addition, President Obama’s appointments to the Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, are adamantly against any protection for individual ownership of guns. If one of the five justices in the majority of the Heller or McDonald cases were to die or retire, not only would further gains be prevented, but even those two precedents would be threatened."
Back in April, the Washington Post reported* an exchange that took place (presumably) at the White House:
"On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.
“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
It’s pretty clear that the Barack Obama has an agenda that involves restricting Americans’ Second Amendment rights. However, what is not clear is whether union bosses will try to mislead their members again by trying to convince their members that Obama is anything but pro-gun control.
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hm
HunterBear71
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A tiny bit alarmist.
HunterBear71
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Why would an organization dominated by staunch conservatives spread alarmist rhetoric about a liberal administration? This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term.
redeyeddawg
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Careful HB, useful idiots usually end up in the gulags with the patriots when they are no longer useful...
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Why would an organization dominated by staunch conservatives spread alarmist rhetoric about a liberal administration? This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term.
C'mon HB; how can you say "this administration hasn't attacked gun rights"? They have He has covertly done so at every opportunity, not to mention his record prior to 2008 as documented in my post above. You did read said documentation, didn't you, or are you denying these facts as being a misrepresentation?
Mark my words, once unrestrained by the necessity to face the voters again, he will step up his calls for renewal of the so called "assault weapons" ban, magazine capy. restrictions, registration, and the list goes on.
As Mattew Henry so often paraphrased Jeremiah 5:21, Quote: There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Regards,
hm
C'mon HB; how can you say "this administration hasn't attacked gun rights"? They have He has covertly done so at every opportunity, not to mention his record prior to 2008 as documented in my post above. You did read said documentation, didn't you, or are you denying these facts as being a misrepresentation?
Mark my words, once unrestrained by the necessity to face the voters again, he will step up his calls for renewal of the so called "assault weapons" ban, magazine capy. restrictions, registration, and the list goes on.
As Mattew Henry so often paraphrased Jeremiah 5:21, Quote: There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Regards,
hm
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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Why would an organization dominated by staunch conservatives spread alarmist rhetoric about a liberal administration? That is their job to warn us of charlatans & snake oil salesmen who will at some point due ones past record, infringe on those rights we hold dear.
This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term. F&F ring a bell, under the radar, flexibility..you really gotta get out more
Try the hemlock it is fresh this week.
T2G
This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term. F&F ring a bell, under the radar, flexibility..you really gotta get out more
Try the hemlock it is fresh this week.
T2G
BAYSTATE YOTE
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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71A tiny bit alarmist.
Your right!!And darn straight to boot!
Your right!!And darn straight to boot!
HB. i consider you a perty smart guy even though i disagree with most every thing you post.
to me your like a family member that has aposing views on things. you HATE what the other is saying but because you make your say without REALLY insulting one onother, we can still have peace.
that being said, do YOU honestly believe that O will not try to infringing on our 2nd right? a simple yes/no please
to me your like a family member that has aposing views on things. you HATE what the other is saying but because you make your say without REALLY insulting one onother, we can still have peace.
that being said, do YOU honestly believe that O will not try to infringing on our 2nd right? a simple yes/no please
Rocky1
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In 2004, Obama says he is "…consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry," and that he would back "federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement." [444]
In March, 2004, Obama votes to allow prosecution of citizens who use guns for self-defense in their own homes (SB 2165).
Well you can bet your [beeep] these two will come up if he's relected, since had he had a son, he'd have looked like Trayvon Martin.
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71A tiny bit alarmist.
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Why would an organization dominated by staunch conservatives spread alarmist rhetoric about a liberal administration? This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term.
HB, what part of that long list of attacks on our Second Amendment Rights up there, did you fail to read or understand? I mean seriously dude... once might have been politics, twice might have been misinterpretation of fact, three times you maybe got to start wondering, but when one has compiled a list of attacks on Second Amendment Rights such as Barack Obama has during his political career, it is impossible to deny his position on this matter.
And, while there has not been an all out assault directly on the Second Amendment, during his FIRST term in office, we know he was attacking those rights "under the radar"; Obama said so himself. Fast & Furious failed, we know that. Eric Holder has not stepped down, he has not been asked to step down; Congress has evidence to prove he was involved, there is a substantial number of the members of Congress that have suggested he should step down. We know Hillary Clinton was pushing for more stringent gun control, circumstantial evidence would suggest Hillary was neck deep in Fast & Furious too. It has been reported that she has been in talks with the UN to push for global sanctions.
So, tell us, please.... How can you honestly say this Administration hasn't attacked gun rights?
Originally Posted By: borkonHB. i consider you a perty smart guy even though i disagree with most every thing you post.
to me your like a family member that has aposing views on things. you HATE what the other is saying but because you make your say without REALLY insulting one onother, we can still have peace.
that being said, do YOU honestly believe that O will not try to infringing on our 2nd right? a simple yes/no please
well HB??
to me your like a family member that has aposing views on things. you HATE what the other is saying but because you make your say without REALLY insulting one onother, we can still have peace.
that being said, do YOU honestly believe that O will not try to infringing on our 2nd right? a simple yes/no please
well HB??
HunterBear71
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No...I do not believe Obama will try to infringe on our 2cnd amendment rights.
larr
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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71No...I do not believe Obama will try to infringe on our 2cnd amendment rights.
i will have to refer back to Dawgs post for this one useful idiots
i will have to refer back to Dawgs post for this one useful idiots
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Why would an organization dominated by staunch conservatives spread alarmist rhetoric about a liberal administration? This administration hasn't attacked gun rights but we are supposed to believe that they are poised to begin gun grabbing during a second term.
Originally Posted By: hm1996 C'mon HB; how can you say "this administration hasn't attacked gun rights"? They have He has covertly done so at every opportunity, not to mention his record prior to 2008 as documented in my post above. You did read said documentation, didn't you, or are you denying these facts as being a misrepresentation?
Regards,
hm
Originally Posted By: hm1996 C'mon HB; how can you say "this administration hasn't attacked gun rights"? They have He has covertly done so at every opportunity, not to mention his record prior to 2008 as documented in my post above. You did read said documentation, didn't you, or are you denying these facts as being a misrepresentation?
Regards,
hm
jumprightinit
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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71No...I do not believe Obama will try to infringe on our 2cnd amendment rights.
What about the thousands of vintage M1 Garand rifles he wouldn't let back into the States from Korea? Or the .45 semi automatic pistols from the same place and the thousands of M1 Carbines? They are all collector guns and don't even really compete with what is now on the open market. He's just plain and simple anti-gun.
What about the thousands of vintage M1 Garand rifles he wouldn't let back into the States from Korea? Or the .45 semi automatic pistols from the same place and the thousands of M1 Carbines? They are all collector guns and don't even really compete with what is now on the open market. He's just plain and simple anti-gun.