PA mountain lion true stories only

coyoteUGLY

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I've done enough research to believe they are in PA. I also know that breeding pairs have been released by individuals. I also know the local news around pittsburgh calls them a released pet, lmfao.

anyone see one in the wild in PA?

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The forestry teacher here. Cruises timber lots and bids them out and one morning when he meet the cutters before school the cutters saw one walking the road in the southern part of Somerset. I believe they are migrated from WV. I would love to cut a track and hunt one.
 
We saw one in Westfield Pa. ( northern Pa ) at the Westfield high sch. at 5:30 am one morning on the foot ball field while servicing the sch. freaked me and my partner right out! It was standing there just like it was someone's house cat, that is until the wind shifted and it winded us.
 
Lion, Friend of mine hunting on Broad Mountain Carbon County Pa found Cat scat did not know for sure what it was went home onto internet said seen pictures of the old boys poop right there on the net. Guess if you even showed a warden they would just say it was a cat left out from somebodys pen. Seen a video on Pa outdoor life about 2 years ago some guy from Pa had a cat right there on the big screen. If they got a nose like out friends the coyote sure it won't be easy seeing them.
 
When I lived in Harding, PA there was one we heard in the horse paddock. We never did see it but there ain't no mistaking the sound. Besides, why is Penn State the Nittany Lions if there aren't any in PA? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Penn State's athletic symbol, chosen by the student body in 1906, is the mountain lion which once roamed central Pennsylvania. H.D. "Joe" Mason, a member of the Class of 1907, conducted a one-man campaign to choose a school mascot after seeing the Princeton tiger on a trip with the Penn State baseball team to that New Jersey campus. A student publication sponsored the campaign to select a mascot and Penn State is believed to be the first college to adopt the lion as a mascot.
 
A old biology teacher told me that he was going to hunt spring gobbler, in black moshannon(Central Pennsylvania) and while driving down the road seen one crouched down along the edge of the road... soo he went and told some park rangers about it and they pretty much just laughed in his face about it... i have heard of other's who claimed the seen them...

PPH
 
I bet they are around i have heard about alot of sightings and have seen what i believe were mt lion tracks in the snow up in potter county. I go to penn state and the last Mt LION killed is on disply in the library from the early 1900's (I believe) . I dont understand how anyone can be sure that was the last one killed! PA was not as settled back then so it woulda been impossible to know if that was the last one killed. Now there are still enough remote areas that they could be in.. They would be king of the woods if they were here and have plenty of deer to eat!
 
Well, I have been out a lot, and I have also been out on calls for just this thing, and I can say that I have never been able to find ANY PROOF. I have been called in on sightings foot prints and just about anything else you can think of, and nothing, I am not saying they are not here, just that 90% of the sightings are not what they seem to be, or are seen by people who do not know what they have seen as for the other 10% I believe they did see this and now what they are talking about. I am just saying that in the last 6 yrs of actually being called for this type of thingof thing that I have never been able to find any hard evidence. Some day at some point I would love to see these beautiful critters running around here, as well as wolves and a stable elk herd, till then I'll just keep watching and waiting.
 
If such a critter exists here in PA why doesn't someone get a picture? I would think sooner or later one would end up as a roadkill like everything else in our state does. :rolleyes:
 
I know of several reputable people in Cameron
county that have seen them over the year's, from
Emporium to keating Twp., from Dent's run to
Driftwood. The late Dave Drakula published a
magazine called " The Mountain Journal ", and he
had 1 set of large cat track's along with 2 small
set's in his garden one spring a couple of day's
after he had tilled it up, and he lived real close
to emporium. During the 1997 mosquito creek
coyote hunt, my freind and I came accross a set of
large cat track's not 400yds from my camp in
wykoff run on an old log tram. We came to find out
that people staying a mile down the valley saw the
Eastern Cougar earlier the same day we came accross it's track's. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY beleive that a small population of them exist in the more
remote area's of our state, and I don't care what
the P.A. game commission say's, there are'nt too
many individual's out there that raise them as pet's, only to turn them loose. They need to come
up with a more resourceful explanation, " it's
someone's pet that got loose ", was wore out
20 year's ago.
 
....thought you mind find this interesting:

January 20, 2004
STILL LOOKING FOR PROOF OF MOUNTAIN LIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. -- Some days, jokes Gary San Julian, a wildlife resources professor in Penn State's College of Agricultural Sciences, he feels like answering his office phone by saying "Pennsylvania Cougar Sightings Clearinghouse."

Since being quoted about the possibility of wild mountain lions surviving in Pennsylvania in a widely published story almost three years ago, he still gets regular e-mail and phone calls from residents around the state who tell him they have seen cougars. The story, titled "A Rural Legend -- the Search for Pennsylvania Mountain Lions," still can be found on the Web at http://www.aginfo.psu.edu/News/august01/lion.html.

"Now I have worked with people and wildlife long enough to know that many, if not most, of these individuals are seeing something unusual," says San Julian. "The sightings, which seem to come from all over the state, are not all bobcats, big housecats or coyotes. Some are easily explained away, but I hear from people who have been hunting for 40 or 50 years, and they know the difference."

It seems clear that some people believe there are cougars at times in the wilds of Pennsylvania, but San Julian and Pennsylvania Game Commission officials believe they are released pets and perhaps a rare animal moving through the state. There have been reports of sightings in adjacent states such as West Virginia and New York, too.

"But never any proof," points out San Julian. "We have never had one killed by a collision with a vehicle or shot, nor have we even seen a confirmed track, DNA verified scat or an indisputable photograph or video. We need to see proof. But even if we get proof of a cougar in the state, there will still be a debate about whether the animal would represent a wild, breeding population."

San Julian cautions against hunters shooting any cougar they might encounter, however. "It would be unlawful in most cases to shoot a cougar," he says. "We definitely want to make it clear to sportsmen that they should not shoot a mountain lion if they see one just for the sake of obtaining proof of their existence in Pennsylvania."

Pennsylvania Game Commission spokesman Jerry Feaser explained the regulations: "The general public shouldn't be out there looking to kill any wildlife except what can be hunted during specified seasons," he says, "including a cougar if they should see one. The only exception would be if it is clearly evident that a human life is endangered. The regulations say wildlife can be killed only in self-defense. We come across this occasionally in other hunting seasons when a bear might threaten and charge, and a hunter feels threatened and acts to protect himself or a companion."

There have been some interesting reports of possible cougar evidence in the last few years: a supposedly half-eaten deer carcass in a tree in Bedford County, a large pile of scat high up in a hunter's tree stand in Luzerne County, sightings of cougars with cubs by small plane pilots in western and northcentral Pennsylvania and tracks outside a fence in northcentral Pennsylvania when the captive cougar females inside were in heat. But there has never been any verification.

Like a lot of other people, San Julian would like to believe wild cougars still survive in Pennsylvania. "But without some proof, I just can't," he says. "As a scientist, it would be irresponsible for me to have any other attitude. I admit, all these sightings make me wonder. But without some proof, the mountain lions here remain a rural legend."

EDITORS: Contact Gary San Julian at (814) 863-0401 or by e-mail at [url=mailto:gsjulian@psu.edu.
 


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