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I stoped by two gun shops yesterday and found a few items for reloading. 2 lbs of 2400 for $30 lb. primers mag pistol $44.80 (1000), large rifle $50.95 (1000). Sierra 44 cal 220gr FPJ $31.65 (100) Sierra 22 cal 69 gr HPBT Match $29.50 (100) Sierra 22 cal 55gr Blitzking $29.95 (100). I did not clean them out as I was not sure if these were fair prices so I just bought 2000 primers and 500 bullets and 2 lbs of the 2400 for my .44 mag.

So are these fair prices? These are all things I will eventualy use. I did end up spending over $300
 
Primers should be around $30-35 per 1000. But they're hard to find. Those Sierra's are a touch high...but availble. The powder seems to be about right. All in all...not horriable. But I'd like to see better prices then that, JMO.
 
seems alittle on the high side for primers , bullets about what Ive been seeing them go for powder alittle high but if you need it id say you did ok prices might raise again soon , at least you have some reloading stuff
 
Problem is it's there and your not sure if you will get when you need it. If you need it and you can get it buy it. Never know when this will end.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600I wouldnt pay those prices. Primers should be $35/1000. Powder should be in the $18-$25 lb range. Bullets seem high also.

Here is 2400 for $19.95. Not is stock at the moment.
http://www.gamaliel.com/alliantpowder/alliant-2400-powder.asp

I just bought an 8 lb bottle of Red Dot from them for $116

Easy to say that if you have what you need on hand. For the guy that has been waiting four months to try and put some loads together to shoot a bit, he is going to have to jump at this opportunity. One could say he is contributing to the madness. The fact is push has come to shove for such an individual and if he wants to do any shooting he will pay these prices because he probably won't wait another 4 months just to wait and see if he can get supplies cheaper.

With that said, I am glad I don't have to make such decisions!
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600I wouldnt pay those prices. Primers should be $35/1000.

Why would you pay $35/k or ($3.50 per hundred)? That is over 4 times what these I loaded today cost:

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Originally Posted By: reb8600Just saw my email. Midway had CCI small pistol primers $29.95/1000 today. They are gone.

The cost of 1000 primers from midway would be $76.46. If you bought 2k as the original poster did then the cost comes down to highway robbery of $53.20/k. You could try to buy more to spread the cost, but then you're contributing to the problem, right?- buying more than you actually need at the moment?
 
Originally Posted By: rgvt4Problem is it's there and your not sure if you will get when you need it. If you need it and you can get it buy it. Never know when this will end.
That was the reason I at least bought what I knew I needed for the short term. I too thought the prices were elivated but I have not seen much available latley.
 
Originally Posted By: 1happyshooterOriginally Posted By: reb8600Just saw my email. Midway had CCI small pistol primers $29.95/1000 today. They are gone.

The cost of 1000 primers from midway would be $76.46. If you bought 2k as the original poster did then the cost comes down to highway robbery of $53.20/k. You could try to buy more to spread the cost, but then you're contributing to the problem, right?- buying more than you actually need at the moment?

Anyone that would order only 1000-2000 off the internet is a fool. If I place an order, it is for 10,000+ at a time and try to buy powder at the same time. Buying more isnt contributing to the problem unless you are one of the people trying to sell them for more than you paid. When I start getting low, I watch and order again. There is a store here locally that has over 30,000 primers sitting on the shelf right now. Has had for the last couple weeks. Other stores are getting them also. Have found all components. If people dont go looking for things regularly then they are not going to get them.

Originally Posted By: Smokin BarrelOriginally Posted By: reb8600I wouldnt pay those prices. Primers should be $35/1000. Powder should be in the $18-$25 lb range. Bullets seem high also.

Here is 2400 for $19.95. Not is stock at the moment.
http://www.gamaliel.com/alliantpowder/alliant-2400-powder.asp

I just bought an 8 lb bottle of Red Dot from them for $116

Easy to say that if you have what you need on hand. For the guy that has been waiting four months to try and put some loads together to shoot a bit, he is going to have to jump at this opportunity.

People should plan ahead if they want to shoot. It is not the first time this has happened. I have some friends that I told this would probably happen. Told them to buy what they needed six years ago and again last fall. They didnt listen and said they didnt need it right then. Why wait until you NEED them? Now they want me to sell them mine because they didnt listen. They are not doing much shooting right now. Those that want to load and shoot are finding what they will need and buying it. The items are there, you just need to do a little leg work.

I am buying now what I think I will need in 4-6+ months. Anyone that thinks things will get better in the next couple months or that this will not happen again had better wake up and get prepared. Why wait until you need something to buy it. If I was to wait until I ran out of something, I would not be shooting. Of course, a lot of people also wait until their fuel gauge on their vehicle is sitting on empty to fill up. If something happened and had to evacuate they would be complaining because they couldnt get any fuel all of a sudden also. People need to learn to prepare, even a little at a time.
 
Those prices aren't that bad. Serrias are always overpriced as far as I am concerned. I was paying $28 locally a pound before the madness, so $30 isn't so bad. Yes I know PV is way cheaper, but when you only need one pound for some testing why pay the hazmat.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600

Anyone that would order only 1000-2000 off the internet is a fool. If I place an order, it is for 10,000+ at a time and try to buy powder at the same time. Buying more isnt contributing to the problem unless you are one of the people trying to sell them for more than you paid. When I start getting low, I watch and order again. There is a store here locally that has over 30,000 primers sitting on the shelf right now. Has had for the last couple weeks. Other stores are getting them also. Have found all components. If people dont go looking for things regularly then they are not going to get them.

People should plan ahead if they want to shoot. It is not the first time this has happened. I have some friends that I told this would probably happen. Told them to buy what they needed six years ago and again last fall. They didnt listen and said they didnt need it right then. Why wait until you NEED them? Now they want me to sell them mine because they didnt listen. They are not doing much shooting right now. Those that want to load and shoot are finding what they will need and buying it. The items are there, you just need to do a little leg work.

I am buying now what I think I will need in 4-6+ months. Anyone that thinks things will get better in the next couple months or that this will not happen again had better wake up and get prepared. Why wait until you need something to buy it. If I was to wait until I ran out of something, I would not be shooting. Of course, a lot of people also wait until their fuel gauge on their vehicle is sitting on empty to fill up. If something happened and had to evacuate they would be complaining because they couldnt get any fuel all of a sudden also. People need to learn to prepare, even a little at a time.

Anyone that says they "saw" this coming is crazy. Maybe to some extent, but IMHO it was the Newton events that pushed us to where we are today. But if you looked into your crystal ball and seen this, I have some other questions I would like you to answer for me
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. I can recall on this forum alone many times that people have stated that the madness would be over already. I am not sure what that means to everyone else but to me, that is pre-Newtown times. Not standing in line at Sportsman's Warehouse every Thursday afternoon at 3pm to see what they get in, in hopes of getting what you need. In my opinion, that is hardly " a little leg work". I can't recall how many email notifications I have received that an item is in stock and within clicking on it with in a few seconds, the site indicates it is out of stock.
 
As said above, right now, it's hard to find anything at any price. The powder actually seems cheap to me at $15/# - I don't think that we'll generally see anything that cheap again on average. The bullets aren't cheap at those prices, but if you're supporting the local guy, and you're happy, it's all good. Some people are forgetting that even before Newtown, the increasing costs of metals, overhead costs like workers' insurances (thanx Ol Bammycare!) and the effects of a depreciating dollar, etc. were driving manufacturing costs up. Our hobbies will never be so cheap again.
 
After what happened the first time Obama was elected, everyone should have expected a shortage again this time. Dont need a crystal ball for that one. Maybe not to this extreme but still should have expected it. All the talk of bans and everything else since the elections should also have made people think and expect. The shooting did magnify it but the talk of bills was already there. I would not expect the madnes to end and be back to normal for atleast another 4 months. When everyone that wasnt ready finally gets their stock built up I think things will slow down. It would also help if people dont pay the high price regardless of how bad they want something. That will put a stop to the gougers buying and selling.

Anyone that reloads should have plenty of stock on hand anyway. Why wait until you are out to buy more?

I wont waste my time standing in line at Sportsmans, I am finding stuff at other locations. Sportsmans needs to put their stuff out at random times throughout the week instead of letting all the gougers knowing when it is coming. I stood in line once just to find out that the first 10 people are there every week 2 hours before they open to buy items to resell.

All the people believing the stories that the government is buying up everything doesnt help, or any of the other conspiracy stories floating around.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600After what happened the first time Obama was elected, everyone should have expected a shortage again this time. Dont need a crystal ball for that one. Maybe not to this extreme but still should have expected it. All the talk of bans and everything else since the elections should also have made people think and expect. The shooting did magnify it but the talk of bills was already there. I would not expect the madnes to end and be back to normal for atleast another 4 months. When everyone that wasnt ready finally gets their stock built up I think things will slow down. It would also help if people dont pay the high price regardless of how bad they want something. That will put a stop to the gougers buying and selling.

Anyone that reloads should have plenty of stock on hand anyway. Why wait until you are out to buy more?

I wont waste my time standing in line at Sportsmans, I am finding stuff at other locations. Sportsmans needs to put their stuff out at random times throughout the week instead of letting all the gougers knowing when it is coming. I stood in line once just to find out that the first 10 people are there every week 2 hours before they open to buy items to resell.

All the people believing the stories that the government is buying up everything doesnt help, or any of the other conspiracy stories floating around.

I will agree to disagree with you to a point. I believe manufactures were prepared for Obamas re-election...they weren't prepared for this. To deny the fact that Newtown didn't exponentially magnify this problem is ludacris. That event brought this issue to front stage. There are people that would never even blinked any eye tuning into legislative proceedings if there was not cause. I have bought two guns since December that I will reload for. Going down to the local shop and picking out 4 different powders to start working up loads is not feasible. Come October I will be hunting with one of those rifles. If that means I have to pay $30/lb powder now rather than wait and pay the $21/lb in September/October, I will do it. My time is far more valuable to me than to say I "saved" $36 over four months just so I was not participating in the gouging. I will buy what I need to buy as far as I believe the price is "fair".....after all, this is one time that the term will be very subjective.
 
Quote:I would not expect the madnes to end and be back to normal for atleast another 4 months. I hope you're right, but I fear you're a couple of years off in your prediction.
As far as the prices the OP paid, not too bad. If ya want to feel better about those prices, just look at what people are paying for powder and primers on gunbroker. Some people are apparently in desperate need of supplies or have more money then sense.
 
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