Primos choke tubes

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cjclemens

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Long time lurker, first time poster here. Been looking at getting a shotgun set up for coyotes and I saw some Primos tight wad chokes on sale. I was just wondering if anyone was using one and what the general opinion was on them. Any other suggestions on choke tubes (as far as brand and construction) would be welcome as well! I'm using a 12 gauge remington 870, if that makes any difference.
 
Remington superfull turkey is a good one but I prefer Indian creek tube they are great. I had a primos jelly head and was not happy but ever gun is different.
 
With my 870 and coyote and extra full, it depends on the load you shoot through them how good they pattern. It seems to me it is finding the load that shoots in the tube as much or more than finding the tube that shoots the load. Had a Browning that shot 3" great but would doughnut 31/2". Current choke shoots #6 3" turkey loads very dense at 50 yds.it is .665 which is pretty tight I think. For buck it might be better not to be quite as tight but it still puts 16 or so pellets tight at 40+ yds.Also there is a world of difference in the cheap buck loads around now and the much more expensive premium loads available in turkey and buck. My experience with my 870,I don't know if it holds true with other shotguns.
 
I answered this one over at HNI, I'll refresh here, as tnshootist alluded in his post - it's a turkey choke, designed for turkey loads. It's not a buckshot choke.

Apparently in browning Invector and Remington chokes it's a .660", but it's a .655" in my Benelli/Beretta Mobil chokes, invector plus's are .670", and it's a gaping 0.690" in Mossbergs. So for your rem or in a benelli, it's just too small for anything bigger than T shot.

I don't shoot turkey loads for coyotes.
 
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Thanks for the info. You've definitely given me a lot to consider. I already have pretty much everything from cylinder to full, so it sounds like I need to do some of my own pattern testing to see what kind of buckshot loads will work with those. I already had the general idea that large buckshot won't group well from a tighter choke, but I wasn't sure where that cutoff was. From what I've learned so far, I was leaning towards something in the neighborhood of #4 buck. I haven't seen anything other than 00 buck on shelves around here, so I may have to order a bag of #4 buck and work up my own recipe.
 
Originally Posted By: cjclemensI haven't seen anything other than 00 buck on shelves around here, so I may have to order a bag of #4 buck and work up my own recipe.

Buffer the shot, you'll get a lot better results. Cheaper to do your own buffered loads than buy them, which is fairly rare for shotshell reloading these days.
 
As far as the chokes go, I used to shoot a Primos Tightwad for turkey out of my Super X2 and tried to have it do double duty for coyotes. I couldn't get it to pattern with 00 buck, #4 buck and T-shot so I just gave up on the idea. My Indian Creek in my Mossberg does pretty good with BB so that's what I am sticking with for now. Good luck!

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Originally Posted By: bryan hSorry when I replied I didn't notice that you were wanting to use buckshot.

No problem. I'll take any wisdom I can get. I'd like to use smaller buckshot, like #4. I probably wouldn't want to go any smaller than T shot. I'm a huge fan of energy retention. What I'm really looking for is something that will pattern reliably out to 50yards. Over 50, and my AR can handle it. I just have had some problems with yotes coming in from the wrong direction and getting too close for the rifle. That probably wouldn't happen if I was a better hunter, but that's not likely to change anytime soon.
 
here is what i have found concerning choke tubes. I shot sporting clays and target setters continually keep setting targets farther away,sometimes the birds can be 100 yards away before you can shot it, so I thought tighter the better. wrong tighter chokes blow up the pattern. the best I have found on a pattern board are improved modified in kicks smoke, tru lock, & comp-n-choke. with top of the line shells at 70 yards, with a circle drawn the size of a clay, with 7.5 shot I can put as many as 15 shot in the circle with full on up you will be lucky with one or two. acts 2:38
 
I have a Carlson 18 1/2" barrel and a Carlson coyote choke. 3 inch #4 buck have 41 pellets and I get around 16 pellets in the "kill zone" at 50 yards. Midway usually has a couple brands in stock. I only use a shotgun in really thick stuff, which here is usually cedar thickets. 00 buck don't shoot good at all for me at any longer distance. Have not tried 3 inch BB. It seems the 3 inch are way ahead of 2 3/4 as they should be I guess. My brother gave me some dead coyote shells to try. I was not impressed with them. I was expecting them to do better than they did for the cost. For me the 3 inch #4buck in a good buffered shell is the best.
 
Originally Posted By: cjclemensOriginally Posted By: bryan hSorry when I replied I didn't notice that you were wanting to use buckshot.

No problem. I'll take any wisdom I can get. I'd like to use smaller buckshot, like #4. I probably wouldn't want to go any smaller than T shot. I'm a huge fan of energy retention. What I'm really looking for is something that will pattern reliably out to 50yards. Over 50, and my AR can handle it. I just have had some problems with yotes coming in from the wrong direction and getting too close for the rifle. That probably wouldn't happen if I was a better hunter, but that's not likely to change anytime soon.

The Indian creek tube in my Benelli will put 280 bb's in a 10" square at 40 yrds shooting 3 1/2" Winchester long beards and they have taken coyotes around that distance while turkey hunting and just dropped them.
 
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Just looked it up for the curiosity Indian Creek also makes I choke tube for coyote hunting that you can shoot # 2 through # 8.
 


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