problem with remington ammo

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I bought a box of brand new remington core-lokt ammo for my .260 the other day. I took the gun to the range and shot the first shot. When it went off something didn't feel right. So I shot another shot and it was like the explosion hit me in the face. When I went to open the chamber it wouldn't move. I took the gun to a gunsmith to have him look at it thinking it was the rifle. Well he fixed it and it cost me a hundred bucks.

My brother came home and shot some out of the same box and the same thing happened to his rifle expect this time something came out of the rifle somewere and hit him in the face causing him to bleed. Again the chamber wouldn't open, took it to the gunsmith along with the ammo this time. The gunsmith said it was a double igtionion in the round causing it to blow up inside the chamber first and then a second explosion causing the round to discharge.

Well my question is has anyone ever heard of something like this? And should I contact remington about it?
 
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Well my question is has anyone ever heard of something like this? And should I contact remington about it?



Ummmm Yeah!!

Not really sure about the problem.

Could it be a primer seating issue?? There's alot of experience on here so you should get a better diagnosis.
 
Being factory ammo, I would send it directly to Remington. I have never heard of a secondary explosion using smokeless powder. I have witnessed hangfires with Blackpowder. This is a new one on me. It allmost sounds like a too light powder charge and the first bullet didnt make it out of the barrel then the second one hit the obstruction caused by the first shot.
 
First things first DON'T SHOOT THAT AMMO ANYMORE. Contact Remington's ammo tech line. Tell them what happend maybe look on their site to see if they have a recall out. Sounds to my like they overloaded it. If there is a 800 number on the box then call it.

You mention a double explosion, I don't think that could happen. From what you say it sounds like a double charge of powder was put in the case. I find that hard also seeing as most loads fill the case up to the bottom of the neck or a little more. They might have gotten the wrong powder in the case. I would hedge my bets on wrong powder. Some pistol powders will allow a double charge but no rifle I have ever loaded would allow enough room left in the case even on a min load. Make sure to Set that ammo aside and mark on it so you don't accidently grab it on the way to the range again. Did the gunsmith completely check both rifles after this happend? If not take them to another gunsmith to have them checked out. If something came out of the rifle it was more likely a piece of the case or primer the came out. Did he give you the cases back after he extracted them? If not I would see if he still has them. If he still has them get them and send them in to Remington along with the unused ammo. Please keep us updated on your progress. Glad to hear you or your brother was not injured too bad.


Here is what i pulled from Remingtons web site.
What should I do with misfired ammunition?

Question
What should I do with misfired ammunition?

Answer
When there is a concern regarding our ammunition, we request that the ammunition be sent to our ammunition facility for evaluation and testing. To ensure proper shipping, we suggest the following:

Please package the ammunition in a secure carton or box. The package should be stuffed to prevent movement. Include your name, full address, phone number, and a description of the problem.

Shipment must be via U.P.S. only. For UPS, please mark the package "ORM-D" for Other Restricted Materials-D. Draw a box around the “ORM-D” letters and write “Cartridges, Small Arms” above the box.

Mail to:
Product Services
Remington Arms Company, Inc.
2592 AR - Highway 15N
P. O. Box 400
Lonoke, AR 72086-0400

We will contact you once our evaluation and testing have been completed.
 
Thanks guys,

Yes the gunsmith looked at both rifles and I have everything that I gave him. I'll use what was given above to get it there. thanks.
 
First off, I can't believe that anyone would risk their lives or eye sight firing ammo that had already shown to be a serious problem.

Second, sounds like a high pressure problem blowing the primers or spliting the cases. The particles you were being hit by would be coming out of the bolt area. This should have ruined the extractor, ejector, locked up the bolt and left part of the case in the chamber.

Contact Rem as soon as possible to let them know there is a problem before it happens to someone else.
 
I think that what your gunsmith was referring to was a phenomenon known as "secondary detonation". This often occurs with extremely light loads of slow burning powders.
As a builder of rifles, I'm interested in what sort of repair your gunsmith made to correct the original problem.
I would also like to know what the cases looked like.
 
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First off, I can't believe that anyone would risk their lives or eye sight firing ammo that had already shown to be a serious problem.

Second, sounds like a high pressure problem blowing the primers or spliting the cases. The particles you were being hit by would be coming out of the bolt area. This should have ruined the extractor, ejector, locked up the bolt and left part of the case in the chamber.

Contact Rem as soon as possible to let them know there is a problem before it happens to someone else.



My brother only shot the ammo because we didn't know it was the ammo. We thought it was something wrong in my rifle. Had we know it was the ammo we never would have shot it again. My gunsmith wasn't really sure what the problem was but it sounds like just as you describe it. Because it locked up the bolt and left part of the case in the chamber.
 
My fist thought was "obstruction in bore". That second shot was dangerous. I'm paranoid about funny noises. I like to check the bore if something doesn't sound right.
But to have it happen on a second gun...that ammo is cursed.
Tell Remington fast.PC
 
22, what rifles did you shoot this ammo in? I spoke to the boys at Rem today and they are not aware of any problems with their .260 ammo. Send it back to them ASAP as they are waiting for it.
 
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I'm paranoid about funny noises.



Dealing with firearms... I am BEYOND paranoid with anything that is not "the norm"! It is not pretty to see the scares left behind when a rifle goes "POP" in someone's face. Consider both you and your brother blessed...
 
I shot it from my remington model 7 .260 and my brother shot it from his ruger M77 .260. The ammo will be on it's way to remington today.
 
Nope not yet. I sent the ammo back to remington about a week ago. So hopefully I will hear back soon. But I did call them to ask some questions and the gentleman I talked to said that they load hundreds of bullets at a time and sometimes they don't get all the old powder out of the machines before they put the different calibers on the line to be loaded, causeing a little of the wrong powder to get into them. But he wasn't sure but over all very nice people to deal with.
 
That just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling... as im sitting here looking at 3 boxes of rem .260. Oh i reread , you said it was core-lokt. what i have here is premire accutip. But my buddys got some core-lokt for his .260 im sure.

That just makes you feel all warm and happy inside when you hear that. Especialy when they say they load so much sometimes theres a mix of powder.
 


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