Question for the Remington 700, 22-250 reloaders

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RonB

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I am just starting working on a load my my Rem 700 in 22-250 varmint rifle.
I had planned to use 40 gr. V-Max as I had in other 22-250's but...I found my Remington has a much longer throat than my old Ruger varmint rifle. I could not seat the 40's anywhere close to the lands. The only way I measured the chamber was to let the lands seat a bullet in a slightly loose case mouth. I consistantly got 2.463 oal..( I do realize the plastic v-max tip is not the same from bullet to bullet. I measured a friend's rifle who has the exact same rifle I do, and got the same measurement.

After buying 50 gr v-max, I can now seat to the lands but, have been reading that folks are clainimg getting better accuracy out of bullets that are not boat tailed. I can get the Z-max for roughly $65.00 per 500.
Can anyone recommend a bullet that is comparably priced that will hold good accuracy out to the effective range limit of the round?

I am going to have to load new cases as I am loading 1000 rounds for a trip and wont be able to afford to fireform that many rounds and reload them again.

Also if anyone wouldn't mind sharing some favorite loads..I sure would apriciate it.
I have a brick of Winchester primers and a couple hundred CCI primers, Powder I have Varget, H4895 and Accur 2460.
The new cases I have are approx. 1.905 to 1.911.

I do have the action set in a Choate Varmint stock, and am using a lightened xmark trigger...about 1.5 lbs
I forgot to add..I have a 1:14 26" heavy barrel.

Thanks,
Ron
 
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Hi Ron
Here is my info – Remington 700 22-250 heavy varmint.
Remington case\CCI-200
34.5 grains of N135 \ Sierra 55 grain SPBT #1365 this runs 3652fs
COL = 2.390" \ Prints .920” group @ 200 yards off the bench.

These Sierras are very accuracy and terminal performance on coyotes is outstanding.

B..
 
I load mine with 39.5gr of varget to the seating depth listed in my Lyman manual for 40gr. Then for 50gr I load. 38gr of varget I believe but not sure on depth.
 
Ron, what you have discovered is quite norm with the 40's. Alot of rifles are throated long and its hard to reach the lands with a short bullet. If you r serious about reloading, I would just get the Hornady measuring tool to measure your rifles chamber. Its really the best way. I personally think its wrong to invest in all the other equipment and then not invest in a $35 measuring guage, but what you have done to find the length of your chamber might be sufficient for now.

I wouldnt worry too much about the boatial vs flat base debate. Maybe benchresters have seen a difference but the Vmaxs will probably suit you well. I have never had a rifle that wouldn't shoot em. Sounds like you have some powders to play with and the H4895 is good one in the 22-250. Some say varget is good but it has never worked for me. You might try RL15 or XMR4064 as well. With the speed a 22-250 can push a 50gr it will be pretty flat shootin. Good Luck in your search.
 
Good luck, I bought a 700 VS in .22-250 two years ago. It has been a study in frustration from day one.

My friend bought his first probably 3 months before me so I got a workout with his first.

The first thing I noticed is you can not seat a bullet any longer then the length listed in the manuals. Any longer and groups open up to 2".

Second thing I learned is the only bullet I can get to shoot accurately in both guns is the 52 gr Sierra match. Both guns will shoot this bullet into 1/2" with 38.0 gr of Varget and the Federal match primers.

I'm not sure if this is peculiar to Remington or all .22-250's are like this.

I've actually been thinking about rebarreling my rifle in .243 and ending the madness.
 
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Thanks for the replys folks!
I am going to load up some Varget/50's this eveening.
I have a load from last week that looks promising..it was 36.5 gr of H4895, 50 gr v-max, set at just touching the lands. Out of a 5 shot group I had three rounds in a ragged hole, and two rounds ragged hole about .5 away....not sure what is up with the two that are out.
Definately going to look for a chamber measuring guage.

Ron
 
My pet load for my Remington 700 SPS 22-250 is 34gr of Benchmark pushing a 55gr Nosler BT. We did a little comp here at PM a few months ago and although I was not in the top ten, my average was 1.09" @ 100yds. That was 6 targets with five round groups. Here are my pics. The last group opened up a bit because four of the five shots were were with Remington bullets and not the Noslers. Otherwise my average would have been better. MOA I am sure.....This was off a bipod and not a bench.

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36.5 of Varget
Berger 52gr Target Match hollow point (flat base bullet)
Federal 210 primer
2.350"

= 1 hole out of my Savage Model 10: Predator Hunter Max 1,
which is a 24" 1 in 12 twist barrel.

I do most of my reloading in either Nosler or Lapua brass, but it doesn't seem to matter on this one if I use Hornady, or just reuse old cheapie white box Winchester cases.

35.5, which was my starting point, was also excellent - everything else listed above held constant.
 
Here is the load that works for me. Rem 700 VSSF II 22-250

Remington Nickel Brass
CCI Benchrest primer
34.5gr. charge of Varget
Hornady 55gr. V-Max
Average Chrono Speed 3424fps.
Sub 1" groups @ 100 yards
 
Originally Posted By: joedGood luck, I bought a 700 VS in .22-250 two years ago. It has been a study in frustration from day one.

My friend bought his first probably 3 months before me so I got a workout with his first.

The first thing I noticed is you can not seat a bullet any longer then the length listed in the manuals. Any longer and groups open up to 2".

Second thing I learned is the only bullet I can get to shoot accurately in both guns is the 52 gr Sierra match. Both guns will shoot this bullet into 1/2" with 38.0 gr of Varget and the Federal match primers.

I'm not sure if this is peculiar to Remington or all .22-250's are like this.

I've actually been thinking about rebarreling my rifle in .243 and ending the madness.






I have a 700 in VS 22-250 as well. Nothing but praise.

Before you rebarrel, sell it to me. I will make good use of it!

I hope you are not using Varget.
 
Originally Posted By: SmokelessI have a 700 in VS 22-250 as well. Nothing but praise.

Before you rebarrel, sell it to me. I will make good use of it!

I hope you are not using Varget.

Yes, I am using Varget. Tried H380 but it is just to temperature sensitive.
 
"The first thing I noticed is you can not seat a bullet any longer then the length listed in the manuals. Any longer and groups open up to 2".

I would look at my handloading method and not the rifle if this is really happening.
 
Originally Posted By: Jay Cummings"The first thing I noticed is you can not seat a bullet any longer then the length listed in the manuals. Any longer and groups open up to 2".

I would look at my handloading method and not the rifle if this is really happening.

I doubt it's method, something with the chamber maybe. These rifles are throated very long and I don't know why. The last .22-250 I had was throated much shorter.

As long as I use the length in the load books and the 52 gr Sierra the rifles will shoot 1/2" groups.
 
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Originally Posted By: joedOriginally Posted By: Jay Cummings"The first thing I noticed is you can not seat a bullet any longer then the length listed in the manuals. Any longer and groups open up to 2".

I would look at my handloading method and not the rifle if this is really happening.

I doubt it's method, something with the chamber maybe. These rifles are throated very long and I don't know why. The last .22-250 I had was throated much shorter.

As long as I use the length in the load books and the 52 gr Sierra the rifles will shoot 1/2" groups.



These rifles are not all throated long. My VS is not "long throated", but then again all my handloads are longer than the book OAL [which means nothing].
 
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