Question for the TSS guys

Spurchaser said:
I was ignorant of the laws…I assumed if I can buy Russian and Chinese ammo online from US based companies then surely they could ship ammo to Canada. Or does Canada not allow its citizens to order?
Apex and Foxtrot are two that come to mind, but I’m guessing they can’t ship either.
Guess you’d need to reload if you lived up there, “if” they would even allow its citizens to own powder.
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The ammo mfg would have to export it to a canada based company for sale in canada (and theres a ton of fees involved). They have strict laws on sale of ammo/guns.

Its the same in US really. We cannot order from russia or china directly, has to be imported by a US company then sold within US
 
spotstalkshoot said:
I thought tungsten was diamagnetic(slightly repelled) so do they add a iron substance to TSS to make it magnetic for law enforcement to check with magnets?
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Not for law enforcement in particular i dont think. But yeah tss is tungsten iron and nickel powders compressed into a round sphere with heat. Its ever so slightly magnetic. I know because i spilled a shells worth on my reloading bench and spent 10 minutes trying to pick up it all. Magnet just grabbed all the spilled steel, and sorta held a tss pellet if it touched it directly.

Hw15 and 13 are much more magnetic
 
Spurchaser said:
I was ignorant of the laws…I assumed if I can buy Russian and Chinese ammo online from US based companies then surely they could ship ammo to Canada. Or does Canada not allow its citizens to order?
Apex and Foxtrot are two that come to mind, but I’m guessing they can’t ship either.
Guess you’d need to reload if you lived up there, “if” they would even allow its citizens to own powder.
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Yeah we have ammo coming in from multiple countries as well but like stated before it has to be bought through a retailer and if the retailer doesn't carry it were S.O.L
We can reload, own powder, make bullets. Heck I even own ar15's and handguns
Did some googling and there's the odd retailer that brings in apex but of course no coyote loads so if have to special order.
 
The HW13 shot that Buck's Run sold was just barely magnetic. A rare earth magnet could move it around on a flat surface but not pick up the HW13 pellets. The Hot Shot showed it as lead shot. The Hot Shot device that law enforcement uses dose not recognize Tungsten Bronze shot as lead free shot.

The Hevi-Shot 12 g/cc shot. Remington HD 12g/cc shot, Federal Heavyweight 15g/cc shot and 18g/cc TSS shot that I have jumped onto my rare earth magnets and had to be pulled off of my magnets. So there was some magnetic metal in all of these shot types.

IMG_1978 by Robert Morris, on Flickr
This is Federal Heavyweight 15g/cc shot stuck on one of my Rare Earth Magnets
 
Spurchaser said:
There are plenty of TSS coyote loads, it’s just a price point with most folks.
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I’ll preface this by saying I’m still a novice on the finer details. I hunted a couple times with guys and just borrowed their shotguns, which apparently unlocked a new phase for me—because shooting coyotes with thermal is starting to feel about as exciting as microwaving leftovers.

I picked up an Indian Creek .670 choke and managed to find some #4 TSS from FOXTROT. A couple months ago I was just killing time on lazy afternoons with a turkey choke and #9 TSS. Everything I’ve shot at has died—granted, none of it past 50 yards, but still. Dead is dead.

I’ve got a line on some 3×5, because the stuff I’ve been buying online is priced like it’s infused with gold flakes. Case in point: I recently shot a cat. He went straight up in the air, ran about 20 yards, and piled up in the brush—during which I sent two more rounds just to be polite.

Those three shells cost me $48.75. So by my math, that was a $550 cat that required nearly fifty bucks in ammo, not counting my time, effort, or general participation in the shenanigans.

Yeah… this stuff is aggressively, offensively expensive.
 
Infidel 762 said:
I’ll preface this by saying I’m still a novice on the finer details. I hunted a couple times with guys and just borrowed their shotguns, which apparently unlocked a new phase for me—because shooting coyotes with thermal is starting to feel about as exciting as microwaving leftovers.

I picked up an Indian Creek .670 choke and managed to find some #4 TSS from FOXTROT. A couple months ago I was just killing time on lazy afternoons with a turkey choke and #9 TSS. Everything I’ve shot at has died—granted, none of it past 50 yards, but still. Dead is dead.

I’ve got a line on some 3×5, because the stuff I’ve been buying online is priced like it’s infused with gold flakes. Case in point: I recently shot a cat. He went straight up in the air, ran about 20 yards, and piled up in the brush—during which I sent two more rounds just to be polite.

Those three shells cost me $48.75. So by my math, that was a $550 cat that required nearly fifty bucks in ammo, not counting my time, effort, or general participation in the shenanigans.

Yeah… this stuff is aggressively, offensively expensive.
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I hear ya there! That's like when I found a box of hevi shot coyote loads! Had one charge in so fast that I sent what equated to a slug of it between his ears at 10 yards then 3 more as he ran away. Finally killed it with the rifle and found 3 little holes in the edges of his ears. Roughly $40 in shot for that one!
Something about shotgunning coyotes that really gets the blood pumping so like you I'm trying to do more of it. Sadly all roads are leading to needing to start reloading shotshells.
 
When I first started buying from Apex for turkeys I swear it was less than $40 a box of 5. I looked the other day and it’s almost $80 now. Luckily I should have enough to last my lifetime. Also luckily turkeys are generally a one shot and dead deal. The coyotes and hogs I’ve killed were easy one shot deals with the red dot generally between the eyes or on the ear. Hogs were just moving through and coyotes were in stealth mode…all easy shots.
With that said, if I was a serious shotgunner for coyotes, I’d still invest in TSS Predator loads and carry a rangefinder after patterning. I’d like to keep it at one shot, one kill type of hunt. And I’d probably use my 20ga turkey gun, lol, those shells are only $55 for 3” 1.5oz of #4’s.
 
Quite a few of the TSS factory coyote loads in my opinion have too big of TSS shot and too much weight of shot in each shell. I have loaded TSS #2, #3, #4 and #5 shot for coyotes. From what I have seen there is no good reason to shoot more than 1-1/2 oz of TSS shot at coyotes. I have shot coyotes with #2, #3 and #4 TSS loads. As good as the TSS #3 shot and #4 shot have performed for me I won't be buying anymore TSS #2 shot. I like the higher pellet counts of TSS #3 and #4 shot.

The last TSS shot I bought to reload was $253.00 for 5 pounds. So just the cost of the shot for 2 oz loads would be $6.32 per shell, $4.77 per 1-1/2 oz shell and $3.95 per 1-1/4 oz shell. With 5 pounds of shot you can make 40 two oz loads or 53 one and a half oz loads or 64 one and one quarter oz loads.

From KPY Shotshell Ballistics
2 oz of TSS #2 shot at 1200 fps gets 3.70" of gel penetration at 108.1 yards and has about 108 pellets per shell.
1-1/2 oz of TSS #3 shot at 1200 fps gets 3.70" of gel penetration at 89.8 yards and has about 100 pellets per shell.
1-1/4 oz of TSS #3 shot at 1300 fps gets 3.70" of gel penetration at 96.8 yards and has about 83 pellets per shell.

1-1/4 oz of TSS #4 shot at 1300 fps gets 3.70" of gel penetration at 78.9 yards and has about 104 pellets per shell.
1-1/2 oz of Hevi-Shot T shot at 1300 fps gets 3.70" of gel penetration at 85 yards and has about 51 pellets per shell.
These 2 loads in red are 1-1/4 oz of TSS #4 shot compared to the Hevi-Shot Dead Coyote T shot loads with 1-1/2 oz of shot.
From what I have seen the TSS #4 shot load with 104 pellets per shell will give you more clean jills at 70 yards and less than the 51 pellet Hevi-Shot Dead Coyote T shot loads will.
 
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