Ravens in montana

danport

danport

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Does anyone know if i can hunt ravens in montana with an e-caller? i can't seem to find anything in the montana hunting regs, and i don't know if they are protected.
Thanks
 
Crows are not raptors.

There is no mention of crows in the Montana F&G laws. Speak to the local game warden, or call the main office.
 
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Crows are not raptors.
There is no mention of crows in the Montana F&G laws. Speak to the local game warden, or call the main office.



Who said anything about crows? A raven is NOT a crow, although they are in the same family. Calling a raven a crow is kinda like saying a goose is a duck. But true....crows are not raptors, and neither are ravens.

From the encyclopedia:

Apart from its greater size, the Raven differs from its cousins the crows by having a larger and heavier beak, and a deeper and more varied barking prrrukk call note. Other field points are the shaggy throat feathers and a longer, wedge-shaped tail.

But the advice about consulting the local game officers is a good idea.
 
Ravens are not raptors but they are federally protected under the 1972 Migratory Bird Treaty between the U.S, Canada, and Mexico.

Leon
 
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Who said anything about crows? A raven is NOT a crow, although they are in the same family.



Neither the crow or raven is a raptor.
 
The last time I checked P.E.I. was the only province in Canada that can hunt Ravens. Not a whole lot here but I've taken a few.
nmleon - does that mean my province is exempt from that 1972 Migratory Bird Treaty? Ryan
 
The Raven and Crow are amoung the smartest birds on earth if you take any weight in the Discovery Channel. The Raven is also quite a bit larger then the crow. The Raven is monogimous and has a completely differant vocabulary then the crow. If you split the tongue of a Raven it will be able to pronounce words like a parrot. Because of their wit they make outstanding pets. I do not know this first hand though.
 
Because they are protected by the Migratory Bird Act, states must establish seasons and bag limits for them. Many states have crow seasons (not sure about ravens), just like they have duck, goose, and dove seasons (also birds protected by the MBA). I was once told by the G&F here in NM that I couldn't shoot crows because NM failed to establish a season for them when the Act was passed. It's not that they don't want them shot (specifically), there is simply no season for them. Perhaps just an oversight that some states have never been motivated to correct.

As far as I know, there are a variety of federal laws that protect all birds (to some degree) except for pigeons, starling, and common (English) sparrows. These are the only three birds that can be shot without regards to seasons, licenses, bag limits, etc. For those of you more "in the know," please feel free to correct this assertion if I'm off base.
 
In regards to crows. I once had a local Game Warden tell me this. He stated the reason crows were protected goes back to an old treaty or agreement with Mexico. Crows are highly thought of in Mexico. That's what I heard. The same fishcop went on to say , If crows were in the act depredation they could be shot. He further stated that if crows were not in the very act of depredation. They had just come from it , or were about to commit it. I then asked the fishcop if he had ever written anyone a ticket for shooting a crow. He smiled and said no.
 
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