Re: Night calling kills a stand???

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Don't think so, sounds like a old wife's tale. A honey hole is a honey hole, night or day, sometimes for years. Just my opinion, only been calling since the mid 70's.
 
That's completely wrong, I've gone back to the exact same places many times, with good results. I don't know where some of these yahoos get their information, but they need to get out more. Randy
 
Like the other two gentlemen stated, its not true.

Animals are on the move all the time, they may be spooked from one spot and may not be back to that spot at that same time for a couple of days. But they will eventually come back.
 
I wish I would have bought the magazine now. I do not recall who the writer of the article was. I did not get the magazine, I saw more than I wanted in the store. I believe its in the most current issue.

Huckster
 
A good spot is a good spot....period. I have some spots that I've killed coyotes at during both the day and night for 3 years running. Don't sweat it....go out (day, night or both) and have a good time.

Take it easy,

Rusty
 
I read that article too.L.P.Brezny wrote it .I thought the same as you guys ,I guess they'll let anybody write just about anything.I've always heard it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I guess I may as well quit calling. I've been calling from the same places for years. They must be worn out by now! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I went and got that copy. It was LP Brezney (sp?) that wrote it.

He's an interesting character. He started off that article about sitting and waiting half the night over a bait. Ended up killing a grey fox then went home. Man, that guy is patient. When I go out, I want to make things happen.

I've read a bunch of other stuff by him. I'd like to visit with him just so I could see how his brain works. Makes me wonder some times.

Randy
 
I have not bought that mag for awhile it is terrible. It wasn't bad two three years ago, but it has become an advertisement articles start out disgussed as a "How To Article, in two paragraphs it turns into they killed two dogs because of the of the scope, call and wonder bullet they used not the technique used and the sets. Low and behold there are the sponsers ads for the gear in the pages of the article.
 
Whoever wrote that comment,is clueless!!
I have stands that I have been hunting both day and night for over 20 years. I have called the same stands several nights in a row and still had responses. Last Christmas eve I shot a red fox at one of my favorite stands. Christmas day I took my boy and my brother in law to the same spot and called up a pair of reds.
I find it best to leave a stand alone after hunting, because it gives time for things to settle down. DON'T BELIEVE THAT NONSENSE!!!
Predator Spanker
 
So basically what is being said is that coyotes don't get call-shy....oooook That magazine has backwards articles for sure. I prefer not to read it also.

Not sticking up for the guy that wrote the article but I have seen first hand, night calling adversely effect an area. We have jokers running around here calling from the pavement and their vehicle all the time in certain areas. Playing call tapes from in-dash tape players. Shooting and missing every predator they call. They don't take the time to become effective at night hunting. It sucks. It definitely has a negative effect. The coyotes are there but darn near un-callable. Bobcats on the other hand are borderline retarded when it comes to learning a lesson. If they are in the area, just hunt it. They don't seem to learn anything.

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"I find it best to leave a stand alone after hunting, because it gives time for things to settle down. DON'T BELIEVE THAT NONSENSE!!!
Predator Spanker"

I'm not sure if I am taking this right. Not sure if PS is saying you should or shouldn't let things settle down. A caller can go to an area consecutive times and do good. (Day and night) And he can night and day hunt the same areas too. But when the calling response slacks off (day or night) it makes very good sense in my opinion to let that area rest a little.

Overcalling is bad, day or night. That is what kills an area. Not just nighthunting. Why make things harder? Move to a fresh area for a couple weeks when things slow down. Most critters are not going to tolerate day and night hunting with any regularity for very long before changing their habits. They will eventually put their guard up.

I'm talking coyotes of course. When 5 coyotes show up at night, and a guy shoots one, the others bolt. They may come again the next time and that caller may get another. Eventually it will dawn on the remaining coyotes that it's not smart to run to the "squealing light" and will probably be more reluctant to show during the day too if the sound is similar at all plus they are just more reluctant to respond in the day already. A lot of pressure can make them literally nocturnal.

If nothing else, it makes good sense to at least give a break for new coyotes to fill the vacant spots from the coyotes harvested. That alone is worth a pause. I don't call fox but am told they are much less difficult to call than coyotes so that's an apple/orange comparison I guess.

Later, Curt

EDIT: cuz it didn't make sense the first time (don't write before coffee) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
If this guy said "it will no longer produce", then yeah, he is dead wrong. I have called the same place many times over, with good results. HOWEVER...I do usually let them rest, like Curt said, they will learn not to come, or maybe to keep a good distance. Most of the coyotes that come to my call, never get to be any smarter at all, yet with multiples, the escapees can and do learn. How long they retain the knowledge, and how their hunger level effects their wariness, well that's a whole 'nuther subject. But to say one night of calling KILLS the stand...that's just plain horse crap. Randy
 
Curt,

Of course you have to use some common sense. If the same area is being called day and night, by yourself or other multiple callers, of course it will kill it. At least for the short term. But to say that a spot was ruined because someone called there at night is just plain nonsense. A good calling spot is just that, a hot spot; and it can be used successfully over and over again. Throughout the season and for years. Just give it a little rest, then hit it again.
 
Just to clear my statement up.
Night hunting in a specific area will not cause the area to go dead.
Educating the animals will cause them not to respond or they will hang up way out or circle down wind before you see them.
I hunt turkeys here in PA. Every joker finds it to be self gratifying to call before the season starts. In nature the hen comes to the tom. If he comes in continuously and their's no hen, he will be a harder animal to hunt. This dosen't mean he won't respond, but he becomes somewhat educated.
Where I live in PA,everyone and their brother has a caller. This makes my life miserable.
My feeling is this, If you are going to call an animal than do it with the intent to harvest it.
Eat at a bad restaurant a couple times, you won't go back! I believe the arthor of the article was experienceing educated animals or trying to make up for his own personal short comings.
Aprox.75% of my calling in PA is at night.
I'm the kind of guy who doesen't like to leave witnesses, if you get my drift. This is likely why I don't have those sort of problems.
In addition,Whenever I call at a stand, reguardles if I have any luck or not, I have found it to more productive to wait a couple days before calling it again. Hopefully this helps
Predator spanker
 
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