Recommend a coyote call

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KYHILLBILLY

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I went out coyote hunting in Christian Co, KY for the first time last weekend, and the only call we had was a electronic call. We were hunting in the timber, in a shooting blind, and we didn't have any scent blockers on.

Now that the background has been filled in, the only time we got a response from the yotes was when we were using the rabbit distress on the electronic call. We could hear a yote I would say prolly within 150 or so yards but we couldn't get a visual on it and we never heard it again or heard any in the distance.

My question is how do I get the coyote to come where we are.
I read that you can use a coyote howler and that can possibly bring them closer to you, but I don't know which one to get. I have a primos double cotton tail call that I have been practicing with but haven't used it in the field yet.

Can you guys recommend a good howler call that can maybe bring them in a little closer.

Thanks for any advice that comes my way, as I am learning in field, much like y'all did....

-Kentucky Hill Billy
 
Browse these forums and read all you can. All your questions will be answered.

As to good howlers many call makers here at PM nake great howlers. Check out Tony Tebbe's predatoruniversity.com he makes awesome calls and has free videos that you can learn some tips from. He also has an instructional dvd that is second to none.

Next check out mfk diaphragm calls. They are a great choice as well with some very realistic sounds.

If your just wanting a run of the mill call at a local store the primos hot dog does pretty decent coyote vocals and kiyis.

But before you start just howling away do some research so you know what your saying first.
 
First and foremost: Welcome to PredatorMasters!!!

There's a ton of info, especially for new callers/hunters in these forums, and I'd encourage you to try out the search engine at the top of the page to look for certain topics (call sounds, calling technique, "new caller advice", etc etc), as well as just peruse through the active topics in the forum. Absolute weath of info here, provided by guys that do it everyday.

Beyond that, to answer your question:

Over the last 20yrs of calling, about 90% of my dogs have came into cottontail distress (with MANY coaxed in the last precious yards with rodent squeaks). The other 10% would be a majority of howls/coyote vocals, then a smattering of bird sounds, deer/fawn distress, chicken distress, turkey calls, etc etc. You mentioned your Primos Double Cottontail call, that call was an absolute staple of mine during college and a few years after, and I still use it occasionally today. Great call for a production model.

In general, if you're currently HEARING a coyote, you're not going to see it. It DOES happen that a dog walks into your set howling or barking all the way, but it's rare. In general, once a dog hears a sound that intrigues them, they MAY sound off from a distance, but once they're on the look out for whatever's making the sound, they won't want to give up their own location.

A good decoy (Mojo Critter) can also help lure a wary coyote in just a little deeper.

One thing I'd HIGHLY recommend, is that you pick up a copy of Tony Tebbe's "So you want to be a predator caller". I bought one earlier this year on a whim, thinking I had most of my tricks down pat after 20yrs, but I found myself taking notes!!

Tony Tebbe's "So you want to be a predator caller" DVD

Also, here's the direct link to his online store to purchase the DVD.

Tony's Predator University Online Store

Tony also has a great production howler (as well as custom howlers at a very reasonable price). The production howler is about half way down the Online Store page, plus there are two video links there for "how to use an open reed distress call" and "how to use a howler". I hear GREAT things about Tony's production distress calls (the extreme and the overdose), but learning to use open reed distress calls is a little trickier than closed reed (like your Primos).

Tony's also a member of Predator Masters, so you'll see responses and posts from him pretty regularly. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond to this thread soon even.

The big advantage of some open reed calls, by the way, is that you can use them to make coyote vocals (howls and barks) as well as distress vocals, and you can readily change your pitch from jack distress up through cottontail, rodent, and bird distress.

That's a lot to absorb, but just try to have fun with it, and keep at it!! You're definitely in the right place to learn from the best!!
 
If you want a great howler pick up an MFK Game Calls Pup Howler. They make really crisp howls and ear peircing pup distress. Heck, grab an MFK starter pack and you'll be set for every situation.

www.mfkgamecalls.com
 
Oh, I totally forgot!!!

If you want to see/hear REALLY good howling, with pretty good descriptions of what they're "saying", check out Randy Anderson's videos/DVD's. Randy has something over 20 DVD's over the last however many years (the guy has been making these videos FOR A LONG TIME). His "series" of videos are "The Truth about Calling Coyotes" (9 videos so far), "Calling all Coyotes" (2 videos), "The Verminators" (at least 7 that I know of), and "Mastering the Art" (1 video, more instructional), I have about half of them and it never gets old.

Here's a link to Randy's DVD's on his website. Watching and emulating his sounds, and hearing his "theories" really helped me step up my howling/coyote vocals game:

Randy Anderson's DVD's

(I prefer the Verminators series with Rick Paillet and Randy together, Rick uses Verminator distress calls-he's the owner/operator-and Randy uses howlers almost exclusively).

I never was much of a howler, sort of knew how to do it and would only use it occasionally, or only use it to locate coyotes at night to know where to call the next morning. But after I started watching Randy's videos, I saw it as a personal challenge to improve my howling game and work on bagging more dogs with coyote vocals.

One thing I highly recommend is hang a call or two on your rear view mirror. Works for two things: 1) you're never left without a call, and 2) you can practice your calls while you're alone in the car/truck to improve your technique.
 
Oh wow fellas, you have given me a lot of information to digest.

I do appreciate y'alls help.

I do have mojo critter coming in the mail should be here before this weekends hunt, that I do plan on using in the two or three small fields we have on the property, so I am looking forward to that.

I have been watching Randy Anderson's video on youtube on different rabbit distress calls but I didn't think to look for howler calls.

I am looking at the TT Black Creek Howler from predator university. Is there a big learning curve with using that particular call?
 
The thick stuff is our home brutha! Bring'em in close and murder those dogs with a MFK diaphragm call!! We rarely have a shot over 60 yards, so we have to pull them into our laps! Check us out when you have a chance!
 
Welcome KYHILLBILLY. I have to agree with ARDave on this one. I've never heard more realistic calls than those from MFK Game Calls! They are hands-free too & that is always a plus. Good luck.-----Ben Jimmy
 
Originally Posted By: Yote Yoda USMCWelcome to PM. Knight and Hale makes a good howlers for KY coyotes. Nice thing about them they are in KY.

I think they have relocated to Ft Smith Arkansas awhile back.
 
Check out Carver Calls. He is on the custom call makers forum, and he also has a websIte. He makes excellent sounding calls, and some beautiful ones at that. You really can't go wrong there. And as stated earlier, Tony Tebbe has some great sounding calls .
 
Check out everuone in the Custom Call sub-forum...if you see something you like from someone, ask what people think of that person's calls...then go from there.
Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the calls from any of these guys.
It really just depends on what you are looking for.
If you don't see anything you like, or you see one that you do, but it's not voiced like you want it, just ask the call maker about it.
We all want to make you guys happy.
 
Originally Posted By: VarminterrorOh, I totally forgot!!!

If you want to see/hear REALLY good howling, with pretty good descriptions of what they're "saying", check out Randy Anderson's videos/DVD's. Randy has something over 20 DVD's over the last however many years (the guy has been making these videos FOR A LONG TIME). His "series" of videos are "The Truth about Calling Coyotes" (9 videos so far), "Calling all Coyotes" (2 videos), "The Verminators" (at least 7 that I know of), and "Mastering the Art" (1 video, more instructional), I have about half of them and it never gets old.

Here's a link to Randy's DVD's on his website. Watching and emulating his sounds, and hearing his "theories" really helped me step up my howling/coyote vocals game:

Randy Anderson's DVD's

(I prefer the Verminators series with Rick Paillet and Randy together, Rick uses Verminator distress calls-he's the owner/operator-and Randy uses howlers almost exclusively).

I never was much of a howler, sort of knew how to do it and would only use it occasionally, or only use it to locate coyotes at night to know where to call the next morning. But after I started watching Randy's videos, I saw it as a personal challenge to improve my howling game and work on bagging more dogs with coyote vocals.

One thing I highly recommend is hang a call or two on your rear view mirror. Works for two things: 1) you're never left without a call, and 2) you can practice your calls while you're alone in the car/truck to improve your technique.


Dang you beat me to it.

I have most of Randy's Anderson's DVDs and a couple of Verminators with Rick Paillet and Randy.

They all are full of great information and how to's, Just watch and listen.

I watch one about every Tuesday Night when the wife is off to ladies Bible study.

For off the shelf open reed calls the Tally Ho is very easy to use as a howler and distress calls. It is not the loudest call, also Johny Stewart has an open reed caller that is very easy to use also.
I also like Rick Paillet's Tweety, thumper, ETC. for distress calls.

I found that the Primos Big Dog and Little Dog hard to use but that is just me. I like their KiYi you can do several different calls with it.

I have yet to use or look into any of Tony Teeb's products, But they are well thought of here on Predator Masters.

You might even consider getting an electronic caller to use in conjunction with the hand calls. I had one Fox Pro caller didn't care for the the sounds as it was hard to stop the sound with out doing it in the middle of the sound / call. -- I bought a Primos Power Dawg which I personally thought had better sounds than the Fox Pro as it was easy to stop it at the end of the call.

I sold both after seeing and listening to the new Primos Alpha Dog. Very loud and great sounds and you can add sounds to it also. I must say the remote is super easy to use.

I checked out the new Fox Pro's for prices and they are more than I wanted to spend. Didn't try them for sound quality or ease of use.

A couple of tips on set up. Set up with the wind in your face or a cross wind, Have shooting lanes where you think the yote will come from. Yotes will try and circle down wind.
Limit movement. Set with brush or something that your cammo blends into at your back. Sun at your back if it is possible. Pick your time to move your rifle when the yote is not looking at you.

Watch as many DVDs as you can and the tutorials DVDs.

Hope some of this is a help.

DAB
 
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