Reloading blank cartridges???
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CatShooter
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CH4D.com will make the dies (they make dies for anything /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) - it is virtually imposable to get blank powder unless you pull down some other blanks - it is a VERY HAZARDOUS business.
Normal powder, even fast pistol powders like Bullseye will not work. The are far too slow for blanks.
When I was a beginning gunsmith, one of the other smiths in the shop made some blanks, and lost one leg in the testing of the first one.
It is the only time in 50 years that I saw a gun truly "blow up".
Very BADD!
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Normal powder, even fast pistol powders like Bullseye will not work. The are far too slow for blanks.
When I was a beginning gunsmith, one of the other smiths in the shop made some blanks, and lost one leg in the testing of the first one.
It is the only time in 50 years that I saw a gun truly "blow up".
Very BADD!
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HUUUMMMMM......The blanks I'm using are for netting deer, exotics, elk, etc. with a net gun that operates off a 30-06 blank. Does this make a difference, that the blank is actually propelling something, in what powder sould be used? Spending $30 for 20 blanks...thought I could try reloading them myself to save a little money.
IDBob
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quite a few years ago when I working for the State of Idaho Department of corrections I participated in one of our rare executions as a second for the firing squad. Our armorer needed to load some blanks for the squad. Only one person shoots a real bullet and the others shoot blanks. This is so no one really knows who shoots the lethal bullet.
Our armorer blew up three Ruger mini-14 rifles trying to make blanks. He finally gave up saying making blanks was more dangerous to the staff then to the guy being executed. I'd just buy the correct blank ammo.
Our armorer blew up three Ruger mini-14 rifles trying to make blanks. He finally gave up saying making blanks was more dangerous to the staff then to the guy being executed. I'd just buy the correct blank ammo.
CatShooter
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....VERY HAZARDOUS business.....(smith)lost one leg in the testing of the first one.
It is the only time in 50 years that I saw a gun truly "blow up".
I don't know anything about reloading.
Why is this dangerous, CatShooter?
Thanks.
PC
Regular smokeless powder needs some resistance - it's the bullet weight and friction that determines the burning speed - without that, it burns veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slow. You increase the resistance, and you increase the burning speed. This powder is so dependent on resistance, that if a rifle cartridge is fired in a really short barrel, the unburnt powder will just go out, not continue to burn, and fall on the ground.
Blank powder is a very fine dust that burns all at once (like the powder in cherry bombs)... and the only resistance it need to get up to burning speed is the crimp or a paper wad - once lit, it all goes instantly. The powder is dangerous, which is why you can't buy it - it is a true explosive - whereas reloading powder is a solid propellant.
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....VERY HAZARDOUS business.....(smith)lost one leg in the testing of the first one.
It is the only time in 50 years that I saw a gun truly "blow up".
I don't know anything about reloading.
Why is this dangerous, CatShooter?
Thanks.
PC
Regular smokeless powder needs some resistance - it's the bullet weight and friction that determines the burning speed - without that, it burns veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slow. You increase the resistance, and you increase the burning speed. This powder is so dependent on resistance, that if a rifle cartridge is fired in a really short barrel, the unburnt powder will just go out, not continue to burn, and fall on the ground.
Blank powder is a very fine dust that burns all at once (like the powder in cherry bombs)... and the only resistance it need to get up to burning speed is the crimp or a paper wad - once lit, it all goes instantly. The powder is dangerous, which is why you can't buy it - it is a true explosive - whereas reloading powder is a solid propellant.
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CatShooter
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HUUUMMMMM......The blanks I'm using are for netting deer, exotics, elk, etc. with a net gun that operates off a 30-06 blank. Does this make a difference, that the blank is actually propelling something, in what powder sould be used? Spending $30 for 20 blanks...thought I could try reloading them myself to save a little money.
There are special "guns" that use blanks. I once owned a Greeley Harpoon gun that used 38 Special blanks, but they are designed with expansion chambers between the charge and the projectile, to absorb the explosion and lower the push pressure.
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HUUUMMMMM......The blanks I'm using are for netting deer, exotics, elk, etc. with a net gun that operates off a 30-06 blank. Does this make a difference, that the blank is actually propelling something, in what powder sould be used? Spending $30 for 20 blanks...thought I could try reloading them myself to save a little money.
There are special "guns" that use blanks. I once owned a Greeley Harpoon gun that used 38 Special blanks, but they are designed with expansion chambers between the charge and the projectile, to absorb the explosion and lower the push pressure.
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At a buck and a half a pop hardly seems worth fooling with anyway. If the blank is actually propelling something it is by definition no longer a blank.
YEAH...I'm tight /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif. But looks like I'll scratch this idea. Good information guys, Thanks!
At a buck and a half a pop hardly seems worth fooling with anyway. If the blank is actually propelling something it is by definition no longer a blank.
YEAH...I'm tight /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif. But looks like I'll scratch this idea. Good information guys, Thanks!
anachronism
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I use blanks to shoot golf balls from an AR-15. Military blanks work perfectly, while some reloads I bought from a commercial reloader on Auction Arms worked poorly. He just loaded them with Unique, and wasn't terribly consistent about doing it. The reloads has less than half the power of the military ones.
CatShooter
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I thought blanks were just loaded with 4ffff Black Powder. The only ones I have ever made were 4 in 1 cases loaded with BP and a paper wad. For reenactments at tourist traps in AZ.
There are blanks in 223, 308, 30-06, 9mm, 45 auto, and others, with smokeless powder - they are loud, and dangerous - people have been killed by being shot with them at close range.
Jon Eric Hexum, Brandon Lee, and a bunch of other Hollywood actors have been killed with blanks.
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I thought blanks were just loaded with 4ffff Black Powder. The only ones I have ever made were 4 in 1 cases loaded with BP and a paper wad. For reenactments at tourist traps in AZ.
There are blanks in 223, 308, 30-06, 9mm, 45 auto, and others, with smokeless powder - they are loud, and dangerous - people have been killed by being shot with them at close range.
Jon Eric Hexum, Brandon Lee, and a bunch of other Hollywood actors have been killed with blanks.
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Jack Roberts
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"Jon Eric Hexum, Brandon Lee, and a bunch of other Hollywood actors have been killed with blanks."
As I recall one of them(I don't recall which) was killed by a blank that didn't even contain powder, just a primer.
Jack
As I recall one of them(I don't recall which) was killed by a blank that didn't even contain powder, just a primer.
Jack